Kevin Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 12. Wanted: General-purpose mixed-models function/package > The nlme library is very nice for mixed-effects models with nested > effects, but it is not very general-purpose. Even Bates/Pinheiro have said > several times in posts to R-help/S-news that nlme was designed for nested > models and using other models can be hard. > Bates: "highly unintuitive" (crossed effects model) > Bates: "algorithms for lme are tuned for nested random effects" > For example, in nlme, > The syntax for crossed random effects is quite intimidating > Try removing the variance component for Rep in: random=~1|Rep/WholePlot. > Try changing an nested effect from random to fixed (or vice-versa). > Try to extract lsmeans for fixed-effects in a model. > Try to do a multiple-comparison of fixed-effects estimates. > Try using AR1xAR1 error structure. The nlme library appears to have > tools for this, but again is syntactically difficult. I can find no > examples. > Most of these tasks would ideally be straightforward in a general-purpose > mixed-models function (as they are in SAS, Genstat, etc.)
The crossed random effects problem is also in the process of being fixed. Our recent work on computational methods for mixed-effects models http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/reports/MixedComp.pdf shows how to structure the calculations but it takes a long time to get the code designed, implemented, debugged, debugged again, debugged again, ..., documented, documented some more, documented some more, debugged again, ... I am hopeful that I will be able to come up with a single, unified data structure, based on sparse matrices, that can be used for nested, crossed, and partically crossed random effects. At present I am doing a major redesign of the Matrix package to change to S4 classes and methods and to incorporate sparse matrices. Once that is more-or-less stable (I expect a preliminary release by the end of January) I will work on the implementation of the lme structures. > The ASREML software is available in S-Plus (and soon R, I'm told) via > the proprietary 'samm' library. Whereas lme seems excellent for basic > nested-effects models and difficult for other models, samm excels at > crossed-effects models, but doesn't have the plethora of useful > print, plot, extractor, and summary methods that are found in nlme. It is interesting that ASREML will be available for R. ______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel