Dear List and Frank, I have calculated the log-odds for my models but maybe i am not getting something but i am not understanding how for a categorical factor this helps? On all the examples i have see it relates to continuous factors where moving from one number to another shows either a increase or decrease, not as in my case a change of catagory.
Furthermore, this gives the values for each factor independent of each other, how do i get the log-odds for the entire model? I appreciate i maybe trying to put things in boxes again, i am not i am happy to report the log odds of moving from one response level to the next but would like it for all the factors together not independently. John Low High Diff. Effect S.E. Lower Upper WO Woody:Non_woody 1 2 NA 0.28 0.16 -0.04 0.6 Odds Ratio 1 2 NA 1.32 NA 0.96 1.82 PD Abiotic:Biotic 2 1 NA -1.21 0.13 -1.47 -0.96 Odds Ratio 2 1 NA 0.3 NA 0.23 0.38 ALT All:Low 3 1 NA 0.47 0.19 0.11 0.84 Odds Ratio 3 1 NA 1.6 NA 1.11 2.31 ALT High:Low 3 2 NA -0.07 0.14 -0.35 0.21 Odds Ratio 3 2 NA 0.93 NA 0.7 1.24 ALT Mid:Low 3 4 NA 0.39 0.15 0.1 0.67 Odds Ratio 3 4 NA 1.48 NA 1.11 1.96 REG Two_plus:One 1 2 NA -0.59 0.13 -0.84 -0.34 Odds Ratio 1 2 NA 0.55 NA 0.43 0.72 BIO Arctic:Subtropical/Tropical 4 1 NA -1.02 0.81 -2.61 0.58 Odds Ratio 4 1 NA 0.36 NA 0.07 1.78 BIO Boreal:Subtropical/Tropical 4 2 NA -1.21 0.81 -2.79 0.37 Odds Ratio 4 2 NA 0.3 NA 0.06 1.44 BIO Mediterranean:Subtropical/Tropical 4 3 NA -1.89 0.48 -2.83 -0.95 Odds Ratio 4 3 NA 0.15 NA 0.06 0.39 BIO Temperate:Subtropical/Tropical 4 5 NA -0.09 0.16 -0.41 0.23 Odds Ratio 4 5 NA 0.91 NA 0.66 1.26 On 3 Oct 2010, at 15:29, Frank Harrell wrote: You still seem to be hung up on making arbitrary classifications. Instead, look at tendencies using odds ratios or rank correlation measures. My book Regression Modeling Strategies covers this. Frank ----- Frank Harrell Department of Biostatistics, Vanderbilt University -- View this message in context: http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/Interpreting-the-example-given-by-Frank-Harrell-in-the-predict-lrm-Design-help-tp2883311p2953220.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.