It really suprise me that a[-c(0,1,2)] works as a[-c(1,2)].
But, unfortunately, a[-0] still can't work . That 's mean:
i want:
a<-1:3
a[-0]
> 1 2 3
or
a[-NULL]
> 1 2 3



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At 2014-09-11 02:24:25, "PIKAL Petr" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi
>
>You still do not disclose important info about details of your functions. 
>However, when you want to perform indexing like you show, you maybe can get 
>rid of NULL and use zero instead.
>
>> a<-1:5
>> a[-c(1,3)]
>[1] 2 4 5
>> a[-c(0,1,3)]
>[1] 2 4 5
>> a[-c(1,0,3)]
>[1] 2 4 5
>> a[-c(0,1,0,3,0)]
>[1] 2 4 5
>
>However I am almost sure that you are fishing in murky waters and what you do 
>by cycle and fiddling with NULL elements can be achieved by more efficiently.
>
>Regards
>Petr
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:r-help-bounces@r-
>> project.org] On Behalf Of PO SU
>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:54 AM
>> To: Duncan Murdoch
>> Cc: R. Help
>> Subject: Re: [R] some question about vector[-NULL]
>>
>>
>> Tks, i think using logical index is a way, but to do that, i have to
>> keep a vector as long as the original vector. that's, to exclude
>> position 1 and 3 from
>> a<-1:5
>> I have to let b<-c(F,T,F,T,T) and exec a[b], not a[-c(1,3)]. which
>> c(1,3) is much shorter than b if a is a long vector. that's, b would
>> be c(F,T,F,T,T,T,T,......,T) I thought a way ,
>>  let d<-c(a,1)
>> that d<-c(1,2,3,4,5,1)
>> and initialize the index vector   iv to length(d). that is iv<-6.
>> then, d[-iv] is always equal  a[- i ] ,  whether i is NULL or not.
>> Because if i is NULL ,then iv is 6, if i is 2.then iv is c(2,6) and so
>> on.......
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> PO SU
>> mail: [email protected]
>> Majored in Statistics from SJTU
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 2014-09-11 01:58:46, "Duncan Murdoch" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >On 10/09/2014 12:20 PM, William Dunlap wrote:
>> >> Can you make your example a bit more concrete?  E.g., is your 'index
>> >> vector' A an integer vector?  If so, integer(0), an integer vector
>> >> with no elements, would be a more reasonable return value than NULL,
>> >> an object of class NULL with length 0, for the 'not found' case and
>> >> you could check for that case by asking if length(A)==0.
>> >>
>> >> Show us typical inputs and expected outputs for your function (i.e.,
>> >> the problem you want to solve).
>> >
>> >I think the problem with integer(0) and NULL is the same:  a[-i]
>> doesn't
>> >act as expected (leaving out all the elements of i, i.e. nothing) if i
>> >is either of those.  The solution is to use logical indexing, not
>> >negative numerical indexing.
>> >
>> >Duncan Murdoch
>> >>
>> >> Bill Dunlap
>> >> TIBCO Software
>> >> wdunlap tibco.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:53 AM, PO SU <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Tks for your
>> >> >
>> >> > a <- list(ress = 1, res = NULL)
>> >> > And in my second question, let me explain it :
>> >> > Actually i have two vectors in global enviroment, called A and B
>> .A is initialized to NULL which used to record some index in B.
>> >> > Then i would run a function F,  and each time, i would get a index
>> value or NULL. that's,  D<-F(B). D would be NULL or  some index
>> position in B.
>> >> > But in the function F, though input is B,  i would exclude the
>> index value from  B recorded in A. That's :
>> >> > F<-function( B ) {
>> >> > B<-B[-A]
>> >> > some processing...
>> >> > res<-NULL or some new index not included in A
>> >> > return(res)
>> >> > }
>> >> > so in a loop,
>> >> > A<-NULL
>> >> > for( i in 1:100000) {
>> >> > D<-F(B)
>> >> > A<-c(A,D)
>> >> > }
>> >> > I never know whether D is a NULL or a different index  compared
>> with indexes already recorded in A.
>> >> > Actually, A<-c(A,D) work well, i never worry about whether D is
>> NULL or a real index, but in the function F,  B<-B[-A] won't work.
>> >> > so i hope that, e.g.
>> >> > a<-1:3
>> >> > a[-NULL] wouldn't trigger an error but return a.
>> >> > Because, if i wrote function like the following:
>> >> >
>> >> > F<-function( B ) {
>> >> > if( is.null(A))
>> >> > B<-B
>> >> > else
>> >> > B<-B[-A]
>> >> > some processing...
>> >> > res<-NULL or some new index not included in A
>> >> > return(res)
>> >> > }
>> >> > May be after 5 or 10 loops, A would already not NULL, so the added
>> if ..else statement would be repeated in left  9999 loops which i would
>> not like to see.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > PO SU
>> >> > mail: [email protected]
>> >> > Majored in Statistics from SJTU
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > At 2014-09-10 06:45:59, "Duncan Murdoch"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>On 10/09/2014, 3:21 AM, PO SU wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Dear expeRts,
>> >> >>>       I have some programming questions about NULL in R.There
>> are listed as follows:
>> >> >>> 1. I find i can't let a list have a element NULL:
>> >> >>> a<-list()
>> >> >>> a$ress<-1
>> >> >>> a$res<-NULL
>> >> >>> a
>> >> >>> str(a)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>You can do it using
>> >> >>
>> >> >>a <- list(ress = 1, res = NULL)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> How can i know i have a named element but it is NULL, not just
>> get a$xxxx,a$iiii,a$oooo there all get NULL
>> >> >>
>> >> >>That's a little harder.  There are a few ways:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"res" %in% names(a) & is.null(a[["res"]])
>> >> >>
>> >> >>or
>> >> >>
>> >> >>identical(a["res"], list(res = NULL))
>> >> >>
>> >> >>or
>> >> >>
>> >> >>is.null(a[[2]])
>> >> >>
>> >> >>should all work.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Generally because of the special handling needed, it's a bad idea
>> to try
>> >> >>to store NULL in a list.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> 2.The most important thing:
>> >> >>> a<-1:10
>> >> >>> b<-NULL or 1
>> >> >>> a<-c(a,b) will work so i don't need to know whether b is null or
>> not,but:
>> >> >>> a[-NULL] can't work!!  i just need a[-NULL]==a , how can i reach
>> this purpose?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Using !, and a logical test, e.g.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>a[!nullentry(a)]
>> >> >>
>> >> >>where nullentry() is a function based on one of the tests above,
>> but
>> >> >>applied to all entries.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Duncan Murdoch
>> >> >>
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