> On Dec 18, 2016, at 3:31 PM, peter dalgaard <pda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 18 Dec 2016, at 19:36 , David Winsemius <dwinsem...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Duncan Mackay <dulca...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi 
>>> 
>>> Coming late to the discussion  - I deleted the original message
>>> I found that I have a cbe.dat that I downloaded some years ago from
>>> cowpertwaite's site .
>>> 
>>> And have attached it
>> 
>> Experience has shown that when you attach a file that you hope to be 
>> distributed to the list it needs to have a .txt extension. Leaving it with a 
>> .csv, .tsv, or .dat extension will cause it to be dropped by the server, 
>> even if the contents of the file are ASCII text.
> 
> That's not the actual mechanism, as far as I understand. If the content-type 
> is text/plain, the server will pass it through just fine. It's the mail 
> program at the sender end that refuses to send .csv files and friends as 
> text/plain, based on the extension. But the net result is essentially the 
> same.

My hypothesis is that all mail clients in common use fail to label the .csv, 
.dat and .tsv files as text/plain if this explanation is correct. I've been 
watching the "behavior" of our mail-server for several years now and have not 
seen _any_ files with an extension other than .txt be successfully passed to 
subscribers. So clarifying this issue might be possible _if_ we could find a 
mail client for which we were certain of its labeling characteristics. Does 
your mail client label such files as text/plain?


>> The URL I offered earlier should have made the file available:
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20130501161812/http://staff.elena.aut.ac.nz/Paul-Cowpertwait/ts/cbe.dat
>> 
>> ... but if there is interest in having it in the Rhelp Archive, I can attach 
>> it.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Would be good if someone could ask the authors about what is going on. Better 
> if someone could check licencing issues and put the data somewhere permanent. 
> Still better: convert them to an R package.

It appeared to me that the authors lost their entire university-hosted website. 
I was unable to find another email address for sending a query to Paul 
Cowpertwait.


-- 
David. 


> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> David.
>>> 
>>> If it does not get through will do a dput as the file is only 7K
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Duncan
>>> Duncan Mackay
>>> Department of Agronomy and Soil Science
>>> University of New England
>>> Armidale NSW 2351
>>> Email: home: mac...@northnet.com.au
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: R-help [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Rui Barradas
>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2016 01:19
>>> To: Farshad Fathian; r-help
>>> Subject: Re: [R] data manipulation
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Please cc your mails to the list.
>>> As for your data, your url is wrong, you need to contact Massey or maybe 
>>> the source of your information and get a valid internet address.
>>> Without one there's not much we can do.
>>> 
>>> Rui Barradas
>>> 
>>> Em 14-12-2016 12:16, Farshad Fathian escreveu:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your e-mail. I was reading "Introductory Time Series with R"
>>>> by PS. Cowperwait. I am going to run the R codes in this book, but I
>>>> don't access to the input data from
>>>> ("http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat
>>>> <http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat>") website.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Rui Barradas <ruipbarra...@sapo.pt
>>>> <mailto:ruipbarra...@sapo.pt>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Hello,
>>>> 
>>>>  What do you mean by "gives me something"?
>>>> 
>>>>  xx <- read.csv("http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat
>>>>  <http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat>")
>>>>  Error in file(file, "rt") : cannot open the connection
>>>>  In addition: Warning message:
>>>>  In file(file, "rt") :
>>>>     cannot open URL 'http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat
>>>>  <http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat>': HTTP status was '404
>>>>  Not Found'
>>>> 
>>>>  Rui Barradas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Em 14-12-2016 11:56, John Kane via R-help escreveu:
>>>> 
>>>>      xx <- read.csv("http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat
>>>>      <http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat>")
>>>>      gives me something. Since we have no idea of what you are doing
>>>>      I don't know if the data has downloaded correctly
>>>> 
>>>>            On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:38 PM, Farshad Fathian
>>>>      <farshad.fath...@gmail.com <mailto:farshad.fath...@gmail.com>>
>>>>      wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>      I couldn't access to data file about PSCoperwait by
>>>>      http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat
>>>>      <http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat>.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>      Looking forward to hearing from you,
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> David Winsemius
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