You claim that this position is "objectively questionable advice" ... but Stack 
Overflow moderators concluded that this was an opinion-based argument and shut 
it down. [1]

While CRAN is remarkably robust at ensuring that packages compile and pass 
checks together, user-facing API changes and behavioral shifts still happen 
frequently.

For an active research project, updating daily introduces unnecessary moving 
targets. CRAN's strength as a monorepo is excellent for developers, but for 
end-users running data pipelines, code stability and isolated lockfiles usually 
trump tracking the bleeding edge. The very stability that you rely on also 
means that you can also afford to delay updates until you have time to consider 
the implications of api shifts and algorithm missions that package authors 
inject on their own schedule.

I will take the SO lead and not respond further on this topic.


On June 9, 2026 5:24:26 AM PDT, Dirk Eddelbuettel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>On 8 June 2026 at 06:26, Jeff Newmiller via R-help wrote:
>| Don't upgrade packages just because upgrade.packages says there are new 
>packages every day... that way leads to obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD).
>
>As a general rule, this is objectively questionable advice.
>
>CRAN _excels_ at being _always being buildable / installable_.
>
>To use a software analogy, we could call this 'build at @HEAD' as one would
>at a large mono-repo.  Which is what CRAN essentially is.  I have updated
>more or less daily / multiple times per week since CRAN started, and I have
>done so mostly on Linux where it is "even more expensive" as one generally
>instals from source (unless newer services like r2u or cran2copr are used).
>
>But if you know what you are doing, and design you deployments well with
>packages you trust, and maybe avoid some others you trust less / have shown a
>tendency to change abruptly then this is as stable as it gets. I sometimes
>reference some examples for that: CRANberries has been running more-or-less
>unalted since 2007, on a machine that gets the daily (or close to daily)
>updates and has stayed alive near-constantly. Same for some things I run that
>are less visible to the outside.  So ... "your mileage may vary".  CRAN
>supports "continuous" updates just fine. It does it to itself too.
>
>Dirk
>
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