Maja,

The need to interpret parameters in log-linear models (and therefore, the need to understand how the model is parameterized) often vanishes
if you visualize the fitted model or the residuals in a mosaic display.

e.g., ucb1 asserts Admit is jointly independent of Gender and Dept ---
fits very badly, but the residuals show the *nature* of the association
not accounted for.
ucb2 - Admit and Gender conditionally independent, given Dept --- fits badly overall, but only in one department.

> library(vcd)
> ucb1 <- loglm(~Admit + Gender*Dept, data=UCBAdmissions)
> ucb1
Call:
loglm(formula = ~Admit + Gender * Dept, data = UCBAdmissions)

Statistics:
                 X^2 df P(> X^2)
Likelihood Ratio 877 11        0
Pearson          798 11        0
> plot(ucb1)
> ucb2 <- loglm(~Admit*Dept + Gender*Dept, data=UCBAdmissions)
> ucb2
Call:
loglm(formula = ~Admit * Dept + Gender * Dept, data = UCBAdmissions)

Statistics:
                 X^2 df P(> X^2)
Likelihood Ratio  22  6   0.0014
Pearson           20  6   0.0028
> plot(ucb2)


maiya wrote:
I am fairly new to log-linear modelling, so as opposed to trying to fit
modells, I am still trying to figure out how it actually works - hence I am
looking at the interpretation of parameters. Now it seems most people skip
this part and go directly to measuring model fit, so I am finding very few
references to actual parameters, and am of course clear on the fact that
their choice is irelevant for the actual model fit.
But here is my question: loglin uses deviation contrasts, so the
coefficients in each term add up to zero.
Another option are indicator contrasts, where a reference category is chosen
in each term and set to zero, while the others are relative to it. My
question is if there is a log-linear command equivalent to loglin that uses
this secong "dummy coding" style of constraints (I know e.g. spss genlog
does this).
I hope this is not to basic a question!

And if anyone is up for answeing the wider question of why log-linear
parameters are not something to be looked at - which might just be my
impression of the literature - feel free to comment!

Thanks for your help!

Maja


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