That code throws multiple errors. Can you at least test your code before posting?

(And, again, please avoid using function names as names for your objects.)

-- David.

On Apr 7, 2010, at 8:54 AM, moleps islon wrote:

So.. here we try again.

##generate dataset
age.cat<-seq(0,100,10)
year<-(1953:(1953+55))
data.vec<-sample(10000:10000,(age.cat*year))
data.matrix<-matrix(data.vec,c(length(age.cat),length(year))
rownames(data.matrix)<-age.cat
colnames(data.matrix)<-year

##divide into 5 year periods
age.div<-cut(year,seq(1950,2010,6),include.lowest=T) ##interval is
beyond my datainterval so I doubt the include.lowest matters

Now what I'd like to do is summarise the rows within the 5-year intervals.

I did read about apply in its different variants and Dahlgaard, but I
do not know understand how it could be applied in this setting.

I tried making an array and summarise by that (used the vector and
applied it into a
length(age.cat)*max(vector(table(age.div)*length(age.div) array. It
worked but required a bit of tweaking (inserting null columns) and I
find myself in this situation quite often whereby I need to add
multiple columns based on another vector so I'd be very interested in
another more general approach.

//M



On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:41 PM, David Winsemius <dwinsem...@comcast.net > wrote:

On Apr 6, 2010, at 3:30 PM, David Winsemius wrote:


On Apr 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, moleps islon wrote:

OK... next question.. Which is still a data manipulation problem so I
believe the heading is still OK.

##So now I read my population data from excel.

No, you read it from a text file and providing the first ten lines of that text file should have been really easy. Read the Posting Guide for advice about offering datasets either as structure() objects with dput or dump or as attached files with "*.txt" extension (not .csv). Just change the file
name with your file browser.

pop<-read.csv("pop.csv")

typeof(pop) ## yields a list

Really? I would have guessed it to yield just "list".

where I have age-specific population rows
and a yearly column population, where the years are suffixed by X

And had you used class(pop) you would have learned it was a dataframe and
even more informative would have been str(pop).

c<-(1953:2008)

No, no, no. Do not use variable names that are important function names. The R interpreter can (usually) keep things straight but it is our brains that experience problems. Other function names to avoid: data, df, cut,
mean, sd, list, vector, matrix

names(pop)<-c
c.div<-cut(c,break=seq(1950,2010,by=5)

(You should have gotten an error here.) After fixing the error, did you
you notice that there were only 3 of the first level???

Watch out for cut(). It uses the default convention of ( , ] , i.e. open
interval at right

er,
      ^left^

which is backwards to what some (most?) of us think natural. Because of that the lowest level gets dropped unless you take special precautions. That is undoubtedly why Harrell set up his Hmisc::cut2 to have the default
be [ , )

Aggregating across columns? Certainly possible, but maybe not as natural a fit to functions like split as would occur with working across rows. I suppose you could use something like this untested (because _still_ no
sample dataset provided) code:

apply(pop, 1,    # this works a row a time
function(x) tapply(x, list(c.div), sum) ) ) # or use aggregate which
uses tapply

I'm not sure it will work, since I don't know if the column names would get carried over into "x" by apply(). You might need to create a separate index that used the numeric positions of the columns rather than their names. Perhaps use c.div <- seq(0,(2008-1953)) %/% 5 or some such inside
tapply.


Now I'd like to sum the agespecific population over the individual
levels of -c.div- and generate a new table for this with agespecific
rows and columns containing the 5-year bins instead of the original
yearly data. Do I have to program this from scratch or is it possible
to use an already existing function?

I think you ought to read more introductory material (and the Posting Guide regarding how to offer example datasets). In this case there are many functions that do data aggregation and most of them should be illustrated in
a good introductory text.

--
David.


//M

qta<- table(cut(age,breaks = seq(0, 100, by = 10),include.lowest =
TRUE),cut(year,breaks=seq(1950,2010,by=5),include.lowest=TRUE

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:11 PM, moleps <mole...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thx Erik,
I have no idea what went wrong with the other code snippet, but this one
works.. Appreciate it.

qta<- table(cut(age,breaks = seq(0, 100, by = 10),include.lowest =
TRUE),cut(year,breaks=seq(1950,2010,by=5),include.lowest=TRUE))

M


On 5. apr. 2010, at 21.45, Erik Iverson wrote:

I don't know what your data are like, since you haven't given a
reproducible example. I was imagining something like:

## generate fake data
age <- sample(20:90, 100, replace = TRUE)
year <- sample(1950:2000, 100, replace = TRUE)

##look at big table
table(age, year)

## categorize data
## see include.lowest and right arguments to cut
age.factor <- cut(age, breaks = seq(20, 90, by = 10),
             include.lowest = TRUE)

year.factor <- cut(year, breaks = seq(1950, 2000, by = 10),
              include.lowest = TRUE)

table(age.factor, year.factor)

moleps wrote:

I already did try the regression modeling approach. However the
epidemiologists (referee) turns out to be quite fond of comparing the incidence rates to different standard populations, hence the need for this labourius approach. And trying the "cutting" approach I ended up with :

table (age5)

age5
(0,5] (5,10] (10,15] (15,20] (20,25] (25,30] (30,35] (35,40] (40,45] (45,50] (50,55] (55,60] (60,65] (65,70] (70,75] (75,80] (80,85] (85,100] 35 34 33 47 51 109 157 231 362 511 745 926 1002 866 547
  247       82       18

table (yr5)

yr5
(1950,1955] (1955,1960] (1960,1965] (1965,1970] (1970,1975]
(1975,1980] (1980,1985] (1985,1990] (1990,1995] (1995,2000] (2000,2005] (2005,2009] 3 5 5 5 5
     5           5           5         5           5           5
3

table (yr5,age5)

Error in table(yr5, age5) : all arguments must have the same length
Sincerely,
M
On 5. apr. 2010, at 20.59, Bert Gunter wrote:

You have tempted, and being weak, I yield to temptation:

"Any good ideas?"

Yes. Don't do this.

(what you probably really want to do is fit a model with age as a
factor,
which can be done statistically e.g. by logistic regression; or
graphically
using conditioning plots, e.g. via trellis graphics (the lattice
package).
This avoids the arbitrariness and discontinuities of binning by age
range.)

Bert Gunter
Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics

-----Original Message-----
From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org
[mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On
Behalf Of moleps
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:46 AM
To: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: [R] Data manipulation problem

Dear R´ers.

I´ve got a dataset with age and year of diagnosis. In order to
age-standardize the incidence I need to transform the data into a
matrix
with age-groups (divided in 5 or 10 years) along one axis and year
divided
into 5 years along the other axis. Each cell should contain the
number of
cases for that age group and for that period.
I.e.
My data format now is
ID-age (to one decimal)-year(yearly data).

What I´d like is

age 1960-1965 1966-1970 etc...
0-5 3 8 10 15
6-10 2 5 8 13
etc..


Any good ideas?

Regards,
M



David Winsemius, MD
West Hartford, CT



On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:41 PM, David Winsemius <dwinsem...@comcast.net > wrote:

On Apr 6, 2010, at 3:30 PM, David Winsemius wrote:


On Apr 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, moleps islon wrote:

OK... next question.. Which is still a data manipulation problem so I
believe the heading is still OK.

##So now I read my population data from excel.

No, you read it from a text file and providing the first ten lines of that text file should have been really easy. Read the Posting Guide for advice about offering datasets either as structure() objects with dput or dump or as attached files with "*.txt" extension (not .csv). Just change the file
name with your file browser.

pop<-read.csv("pop.csv")

typeof(pop) ## yields a list

Really? I would have guessed it to yield just "list".

where I have age-specific population rows
and a yearly column population, where the years are suffixed by X

And had you used class(pop) you would have learned it was a dataframe and
even more informative would have been str(pop).

c<-(1953:2008)

No, no, no. Do not use variable names that are important function names. The R interpreter can (usually) keep things straight but it is our brains that experience problems. Other function names to avoid: data, df, cut,
mean, sd, list, vector, matrix

names(pop)<-c
c.div<-cut(c,break=seq(1950,2010,by=5)

(You should have gotten an error here.) After fixing the error, did you
you notice that there were only 3 of the first level???

Watch out for cut(). It uses the default convention of ( , ] , i.e. open
interval at right

er ,
       ^left^

which is backwards to what some (most?) of us think natural. Because of that the lowest level gets dropped unless you take special precautions. That is undoubtedly why Harrell set up his Hmisc::cut2 to have the default
be [ , )

Aggregating across columns? Certainly possible, but maybe not as natural a fit to functions like split as would occur with working across rows. I suppose you could use something like this untested (because _still_ no
sample dataset provided) code:

apply(pop, 1,    # this works a row a time
function(x) tapply(x, list(c.div), sum) ) ) # or use aggregate which
uses tapply

I'm not sure it will work, since I don't know if the column names would get carried over into "x" by apply(). You might need to create a separate index that used the numeric positions of the columns rather than their names. Perhaps use c.div <- seq(0,(2008-1953)) %/% 5 or some such inside
tapply.


Now I'd like to sum the agespecific population over the individual
levels of -c.div- and generate a new table for this with agespecific
rows and columns containing the 5-year bins instead of the original
yearly data. Do I have to program this from scratch or is it possible
to use an already existing function?

I think you ought to read more introductory material (and the Posting Guide regarding how to offer example datasets). In this case there are many functions that do data aggregation and most of them should be illustrated in
a good introductory text.

--
David.


//M

qta<- table(cut(age,breaks = seq(0, 100, by = 10),include.lowest =
TRUE),cut(year,breaks=seq(1950,2010,by=5),include.lowest=TRUE

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:11 PM, moleps <mole...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thx Erik,
I have no idea what went wrong with the other code snippet, but this one
works.. Appreciate it.

qta<- table(cut(age,breaks = seq(0, 100, by = 10),include.lowest =
TRUE),cut(year,breaks=seq(1950,2010,by=5),include.lowest=TRUE))

M


On 5. apr. 2010, at 21.45, Erik Iverson wrote:

I don't know what your data are like, since you haven't given a
reproducible example. I was imagining something like:

## generate fake data
age <- sample(20:90, 100, replace = TRUE)
year <- sample(1950:2000, 100, replace = TRUE)

##look at big table
table(age, year)

## categorize data
## see include.lowest and right arguments to cut
age.factor <- cut(age, breaks = seq(20, 90, by = 10),
              include.lowest = TRUE)

year.factor <- cut(year, breaks = seq(1950, 2000, by = 10),
               include.lowest = TRUE)

table(age.factor, year.factor)

moleps wrote:

I already did try the regression modeling approach. However the
epidemiologists (referee) turns out to be quite fond of comparing the incidence rates to different standard populations, hence the need for this labourius approach. And trying the "cutting" approach I ended up with :

table (age5)

age5
(0,5] (5,10] (10,15] (15,20] (20,25] (25,30] (30,35] (35,40] (40,45] (45,50] (50,55] (55,60] (60,65] (65,70] (70,75] (75,80] (80,85] (85,100] 35 34 33 47 51 109 157 231 362 511 745 926 1002 866 547
   247       82       18

table (yr5)

yr5
(1950,1955] (1955,1960] (1960,1965] (1965,1970] (1970,1975]
(1975,1980] (1980,1985] (1985,1990] (1990,1995] (1995,2000] (2000,2005] (2005,2009] 3 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5
3

table (yr5,age5)

Error in table(yr5, age5) : all arguments must have the same length
Sincerely,
M
On 5. apr. 2010, at 20.59, Bert Gunter wrote:

You have tempted, and being weak, I yield to temptation:

"Any good ideas?"

Yes. Don't do this.

(what you probably really want to do is fit a model with age as a
factor,
which can be done statistically e.g. by logistic regression; or
graphically
using conditioning plots, e.g. via trellis graphics (the lattice
package).
This avoids the arbitrariness and discontinuities of binning by age
range.)

Bert Gunter
Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics

-----Original Message-----
From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org
[mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On
Behalf Of moleps
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:46 AM
To: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: [R] Data manipulation problem

Dear R´ers.

I´ve got a dataset with age and year of diagnosis. In order to
age-standardize the incidence I need to transform the data into a
matrix
with age-groups (divided in 5 or 10 years) along one axis and year
divided
into 5 years along the other axis. Each cell should contain the
number of
cases for that age group and for that period.
I.e.
My data format now is
ID-age (to one decimal)-year(yearly data).

What I´d like is

age 1960-1965 1966-1970 etc...
0-5 3 8 10 15
6-10 2 5 8 13
etc..


Any good ideas?

Regards,
M



David Winsemius, MD
West Hartford, CT



David Winsemius, MD
West Hartford, CT

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