On 4/26/10 21:45:55 R P Herrold wrote:
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:45:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: R P Herrold<herr...@owlriver.com>
To: Marshall Feldman<ma...@uri.edu>
Cc:r-help@r-project.org
Subject: [R] Upgrading R using the "global library folder" strategy -,
        what do you think about it?
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Marshall Feldman wrote:

>  So why not have the appropriate
>  scripts ask a few questions upon the first installation of R (e.g., "Do you
>  want to configure R with a "global" library for packages to make future
>  upgrading easier?") and at upgrade time ("Your previous version of R has a
>  "global" library; do you want the new version to use it?). I'd even go so far
>  as to have the shell script automatically call an R script to run
>  update.packages().
There is a large body of literature on this -- interactive
questions of non-root users are useless; root user actiuons
need to be scripted into the package management system
acessible to automation to be scaleable, and to attain the
needed administrator level permissions to make changed

>  The point is that most users just want to upgrade, and the upgrade procedure
>  can and should (a) make this as seamless as possible and (b) allow those who
>  may want to run specialized versions of R opt out of the automatic procedure.
and computers in a environment that has to conform to a
hard specification (think: pharma research for FDA report
preparation; financial service firms) that the IT department
manages, cannot tolerate such diversity

There is no easy answer here, as 'one size cannot fit all'

-- Russ herrold

Y'know, I hadn't thought of multi-user machines, network installs, and all that. It's been so long since I've worked on a system like that.

Still, this raises some questions. On multi-user installations is there a single library shared by all users or does each user have his/her own library? If the latter, then the question is moot because installation and library configuration are separate things. If the former, then would having a standard arrangement that a root user could modify/override work?

Also, assuming a large number of R installations are on machines used by a single user (and perhaps others in a relatively unsophisticated arrangement, such as a home computer shared by family members), do you think having scripts along the lines I suggested would work for a large portion of such users?

One could also have switches on an installation command line. I'm not trying to impose a one-size-fits-all model, but sometimes standardization is good.

The point is that no matter what the nature of the system, suggestions as to best practices and automations to accomplish them should be present if at all possible. One can always deviate, but it's good to do so consciously.

-- Marsh Feldman

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