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Thank you Rich.

I still don't get it.

If i understand correctly- the MMC example on maize data outlines an issue with the multiple ties between group means. As a result of this, "user specified contrasts" needed specifying.

Its this part, understanding the design matrix (ie., the 'treatment contrast' for the ANOVA &/or lm design) so that one knows *how* to set up cunstom contrasts- the underlying logic- that i need to learn. Demystify.

In this maize example, if it is explained, regretfully i missed it. Perhaps i'm making somthing out of nothing, its self evident and i'm just complicating it. In that case a bucket of cold water is what i need. But maybe you have another example? Or an explicit tutorial covering this?

Unfortunatley the local stats here are thin on the ground and thus overworked. No time for "R-101" for troublsome biologists like me...

Back to the miaze example in case i missed 'it', and with sincere thanks for your suggestion,

karl



On 6/1/2010 6:03 PM, RICHARD M. HEIBERGER wrote:
>
> Please look at the maiz example, the last example in ?MMC in the HH package.
> Follow the example all the way to the end.  It illustrates a problem and
> then the resolution
> of the problem.
> install.packages("HH")  ## if you don't have it yet.
> library(HH)
> ?MMC
> Rich

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Erasmus MC
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On 6/1/2010 6:03 PM, RICHARD M. HEIBERGER wrote:

Please look at the maiz example, the last example in ?MMC in the HH package.
Follow the example all the way to the end.  It illustrates a problem and
then the resolution
of the problem.
install.packages("HH")  ## if you don't have it yet.
library(HH)
?MMC
Rich

--
Karl Brand <k.br...@erasmusmc.nl>
Department of Genetics
Erasmus MC
Dr Molewaterplein 50
3015 GE Rotterdam
P +31 (0)10 704 3409 | F +31 (0)10 704 4743 | M +31 (0)642 777 268

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