Could you dumb it down to a toy example with 4 observations for a model like "y ~ 1 | inter", 2 observations for each of 2 levels of "inter"? If that works, then you can play with the example that works and the example that doesn't; this is one of the strategies mentioned in Poly (1971) How to Solve It (Princeton U. Pr.). With luck, this will help you figure out what you need to do to get the answers you want. If not, it should help you produce a small toy example that doesn't work, which you can then send us. Please include a data.frame call, so someone can copy your example into R and try it in 2 seconds. That should increase the chances that you would get a helpful reply.

Also, have you read Pinhiero and Bates (2000) Mixed-Effect Models in S and S-Plus (Springer)? I've found that book to be indispensible for using "lme".

hope this helps. spencer graves

Andrej Kveder wrote:

HI all,

I might add some more information in order to possibly solve my problem. I'm
really stuck and no obvious solutions do the trick.
I'm using R 1.7.1 on Windows 2000 with the packages regurarly updated.
I'm using hypothetical data constructed as a pseudo population conforming to
a certain Var-Cov structure.
I might add that just



predict(level2)



works. But when I add the new dataset it doesn't. Following a suggestion I even tried refactoring of the grouping variable (inter) after I created the subset. It didn't work. I have no other factor variables in the model. I really have got no clue what could be wrong.

There is a sample from my data:


dnNew


Grouped Data: y ~ v11 + v21 + v22 + v23 | inter
        v11             v21          v22         v23    inter
4 5.55186635 5.6620022 24.18033 5.003409 1
13 2.03852426 5.6620022 24.18033 5.003409 1
15 2.19825772 7.5676798 31.03986 4.746891 2
16 4.51368278 7.5676798 31.03986 4.746891 2
18 3.35322702 7.5676798 31.03986 4.746891 2
19 2.46414346 7.5676798 31.03986 4.746891 2
20 2.66670834 7.5676798 31.03986 4.746891 2

and this is the model:


level2


Linear mixed-effects model fit by REML
Data: d.n.gr.2
Log-restricted-likelihood: -533.0011
Fixed: model$fixed
(Intercept) v11 v21 v22 v23 v11:v21
3.205519074 0.298941539 -0.017743958 0.016007280 -0.410760471 0.002700954
v11:v22 v11:v23
-0.003680952 -0.018005717
Random effects:
Formula: ~v11 | inter
Structure: General positive-definite, Log-Cholesky parametrization
StdDev Corr
(Intercept) 0.385620605 (Intr)
v11 0.003147431 -0.048
Residual 0.450012367
Number of Observations: 729
Number of Groups: 50
If this give you some more insight to my problem.

I would reallly appreciate any suggestion.

Thanks

Andrej

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrej Kveder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 7:05 PM
To: R-Help
Subject: predicting values from the LME


Dear listers,


I experinced a problem prdicting the values using the LME with multilevel
data.
I have NA's in my dependent variable and the model is fitted only on the
completed cases.
I want to estimate the predicted values for the rest of the data (those
cases with missing dep. variable)
I extracted a subset from the original file containing the variables used in
the model as well as the second level indicator.
I used the following command

p<-predict(level2,newdata=d.n.new,level=0:1)

where level2 is my LME model.
But, I get the following error:

Error in eval(expr, envir, enclos) : 1 argument passed to "$" which requires
2.

I tried with omitting the level specification (which is 0 by default) and I
transformed the new data to be groupedData with no luck.

I have tried the example from the Pinheiro,Bates book and it works - mine
doesn't. Does anybody have an idea what could be wrong?

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Andrej

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