Greetings, everybody. Can I ask some glm questions?

1. How do you find out -2*lnL(saturated model)?

In the output from glm, I find:

Null deviance:  which I think is  -2[lnL(null) - lnL(saturated)]
Residual deviance:   -2[lnL(fitted) - lnL(saturated)]

The Null model is the one that includes the constant only (plus offset if specified). Right?

I can use the Null and Residual deviance to calculate the "usual model Chi-squared" statistic
-2[lnL(null) - lnL(fitted)].


But, just for curiosity's sake, what't the saturated model's -2lnL ?

2. Why no 'scaled deviance' in output? Or, how are you supposed to tell if there is over-dispersion?
I just checked andSAS gives us the scaled and nonscaled deviance.


I have read the Venables & Ripley (MASS 4ed) chapter on GLM . I believe I understand the cautionary point about overdispersion toward the end (p. 408). Since I'm comparing lots of other books at the moment, I believe I see people using the practice that is being criticized. The Pearson Chi-square based estimate of dispersion is recommended and one uses an F test to decide if the fitted model is significantly worse than the saturated model. But don't we still assess over-dispersion by looking at the scaled deviance (after it is calculated properly)?

Can I make a guess why glm does not report scaled deviance? Are the glm authors trying to discourage us from making the lazy assessment in which one concludes over-dispersion is present if the scaled deviance exceeds the degrees of freedom?

3. When I run "example(glm)" at the end there's a Gamma model and the printout says:

(Dispersion parameter for Gamma family taken to be 0.001813340)

I don't find an estimate for the Gamma distribution's shape paremeter in the output. I'm uncertain what the reported dispersion parameter refers to. Its the denominator (phi) in the exponential family formula, isn't it?

y*theta - c(theta) exp [ --------------------- - h(y,phi) ]
phi



4. For GLM teaching purposes, can anybody point me at some good examples of GLM that do not use Normal, Poisson, Negative Binomial, and/or Logistic Regression? I want to justify the effort to understand the GLM as a framework. We have already in previous semesters followed the usual "econometric" approach in which OLS, Poisson/Count, and Logistic regression are treated as special cases. Some of the students don't see any benefit from tackling the GLM's new notation/terminology.


What I'm lacking is some persuasive evidence that the effort to master the details of the GLM is worthwhile. I could really use some data and reference articles that have applications of Gamma distributed (or exponential) variables, say, or Weibull, or whatever.

I've been dropping my course notes in this directory:

http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/ps909/AdvancedRegression.

The documents GLM1 and GLM2 are pretty good theoretical surveys <patting self on back/>. But I need to work harder to justify the effort by providing examples.

I'd appreciate any feedback, if you have any. And, of course, if you want to take these documents and use them for your own purposes, be my guest.

4. Is it possible to find all methods that an object inherits?

I found out by reading the source code for J Fox's car package that model.matrix() returns the X matrix of coded input variables, so one can do fun things like calculate robust standard errors and such. That's really useful, because before I found that, I was recoding up a storm to re-create the X matrix used in a model.

Is there a direct way to find a list of all the other methods that would apply to an object?

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