Dear R-helpers

I have a problem related to the use of NLME

I think is simply a matter of getting the nlme coding correct, but i cannot get my brain around it

I am analysing some 24 growth curves of some cells , and i wanted to say that there are significant differences between the curves in two parameters that describe the pattern of growth. these parameters are from a logistic (r & k) .

i have attempted to construct a self starting routine for nlme ie:

SSGrowth_function(x, r, k)
{
.expr2 <- (k - 100000)/100000
.expr5 <- exp(((r * -1) * x))
.expr7 <- 1 + (.expr2 * .expr5)
.expr13 <- .expr7^2
.value <- k/.expr7
.actualArgs <- match.call()[c("r", "k")]
if(all(unlist(lapply(as.list(.actualArgs), is.name)))) {
.grad <- array(0, c(length(.value), 2), list(NULL, c("r", "k")))
.grad[, "r"] <- - ((k * (.expr2 * (.expr5 * (-1 * x))))/.expr13)
.grad[, "k"] <- (1/.expr7) - ((k * (1e-005 * .expr5))/.expr13)
dimnames(.grad) <- list(NULL, .actualArgs)
attr(.value, "gradient") <- .grad
}
.value
}


where x = time, 100000 = known starting conditions, r = growth and k = carrying capacity

i guessed i should then write

nlme(NoofCells~SSGrowth(Time,r,k),fixed=r+k~1,data=CellData,random=r+k~1)


This runs and tells me that r & k's do differ


BUT. The "CellData" actually consists of replicates - ie there are 4 cell types, but they are done 6 times each. Therefore, I do not want to ask if there are significant differences in r & k between 24 sets of data ("Runs")- rather I want to be able to say that there are differences between the four cell types occurring 6 times each. So how do i incorporate "CellType" explicitly into my model structure??

i.e. If i was lust looking at say linear growth and was using lme I would have written something like

lme(NoofCells~Time*CellType,random=~1|Runs,data=CellData)

Any thoughts/suggestions gratefully received

Darren Shaw

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Dr Darren J Shaw
Centre for Tropical Veterinary Medicine (CTVM)
Royal School of Veterinary Studies
The University of Edinburgh
Scotland

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