Fortunately, you don't have to accept "no" for an answer: You can dream up something that you think is sensible, simulate scenarios you want to detect plus scenarios with no difference, and find out what your procedure produces, the distributions of your sample statistics, etc., e.g., as described by Venables and Ripley (2000) S Programming (Springer) to obtain confidence intervals for normal probability plots. R has many functions for pseudo-random number generation as well as packages for bootstrapping. Only a few hours ago, I checked a theoretical computation using pseudo-random numbers.

     hope this helps.  spencer graves

Prof Brian Ripley wrote:

It's not OK.  Treat the results from rlm as having infinite df since the
theory is asymptotic (use pnorm not pt), and don't expect anything useful
in samples as small as 10 cases (30+, preferably 100+ would be OK).

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Nathan Weisz wrote:



Dear List,

I used rlm to calculate two regression models for two data sets (rlm due to two outlying values in one of the data sets). Now I want to compare the two regression slopes. I came across some R-code of Spencer Graves in reply to a similar problem:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg06666.html


The code was:

> df1 <- data.frame(x=1:10, y=1:10+rnorm(10)) #3observations in original code
> df2 <- data.frame(x=1:10, y=1:10+rnorm(10))
>
> fit1 <- lm(y~x, df1)
> s1 <- summary(fit1)$coefficients
> fit2 <- lm(y~x, df2)
> s2 <- summary(fit2)$coefficients
>
> db <- (s2[2,1]-s1[2,1])
> sd <- sqrt(s2[2,2]^2+s1[2,2]^2)
> df <- (fit1$df.residual+fit2$df.residual)
> td <- db/sd
> 2*pt(-abs(td), df)
[1] 0.9510506


However when I use rlm instead of lm I get NA for df.residual.
> fit1 <- rlm(y~x, df1)
> fit1$df.residual
[1] NA

Does this mean that I can not apply the code for values gained by rlm? In the example above I continued by taking the df from:
> summary(fit1)$df[2]
[1] 8


Is this o.k.?

Help greatly appreciated.

Best,
Nathan Weisz

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