Dear friends,

I am apologise to ask again about PQL, because I did
not receive any answer from the first question.

Is it possible to fit a crossed random effects model
 using glmmPQL and, because I tyred to use this codes 


random=list(group=pdBlocked(list(pdIdent(~randf-1),pdIdent(~randm-1)))),
family=binomial, data=sala.data)>

 for the random effects part , but dos not give me the
same result as in the literatures, in particular, for
the random effects, and when I change the number of
groups it gives me different  result. So, If any one
has an idea, pleas help me

Note that the data what I am trying to fit are the
salamander mating data

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