Jari Oksanen wrote:

On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 21:29, Tamas K Papp wrote:


On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:21:18PM -0400, Liaw, Andy wrote:


That's more of a question for the BUGS developers. BUGS is not open


source,


so whatever binary is provided, that's all you can use. If I'm not
mistaken, WinBUGS is the only version under development.


I found something called JAGS, and I am still exploring it.  It
appears to be an open-source BUGS replacement, thought with
limitations.



MacOS X is a kind of unix (where the emphasis is on the "kind of"), so
you can get and compile any source code developed for unix -- with some
luck. One alternative is Bassist available at
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/research/fdk/bassist/. I just tried and found
out that you can compile and install it in MacOS X in the usual way
(./configure && make && sudo make install). That's all I can say about
it. It may not be easiest to use. The current version seems to be a bit
oldish and not quite complete, but somebody claimed that they may start
developing Bassist again. Actually, Bob O'Hara (who usually calls
himself "Anon." in this list) should know more, and hopefully this
message will prompt him to tell us, too.



I don't think Andrew has even tried installing WinBUGS it on a Mac (first problem: find a Mac).

I haven't heard about any plans to develop BASSIST further, but as it's open source, someone else could take it up. The BASSIST language is very BUGS-like, so shouldn't be a big problem to learn.

To answer Ramon about BUGS and R, be patient: I think an announcement will come soon, and I'd rather not pre-empt that.

We're drifting away from R, so can I suggest either ending this, sticking to R, or shifting it to the WinBUGS list? That's probably a better forum for getting feedback on Bayesian stuff anyway.

Oh, and Jari, are you likely to submit your R: opas ekologielle to CRAN at any time? Hint, hint.

Bob

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