On 24-Nov-04 Martin Maechler wrote: >>>>>> "Ted" == Ted Harding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] > Ted> [...] The "Challenge" > Ted> mechanism would destroy the mailing-list community if > Ted> it became widely adopted. > > Exactly. > I've received such a message myself from the same "machine" and > -- as mailing list manager -- tried to find out more. > > The problem is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscribed > to R-help. One other person is and I have written e-mail to that > address withOUT getting such a message back.. > > Again, I completely agree that it is absolutely inacceptable > to subscribe from such a spam-blocking address. > > > Ted> One reason I am posting this grumble to R-help is in > Ted> the hope that I get a challenge to this one too. In > Ted> that case, once and for all, I shall respond, so that > Ted> the recipient will see this message and (I hope) do > Ted> something about it, to eliminate the "Challenge" > Ted> responder (I can't find the true recipient's email > Ted> address from the "Challenge"). > > please let me (or R-help too) know what you find out. > > Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich > (R-help mailing list maintainer)
Hi Martin, I'm pleased to receive such positive support! (I was apprehensive about annoying the list with this issue). I did get a "Challenge" to the Grumble, so I confirmed that one. I have heard nothing yet from anyone who might be connected to uol.com.br but of course may do so later. I visited the uol.com.br website and found the following on it: http://antispam.uol.com.br/autorizados.jhtm#discussao 4. Como autorizar listas de discuss�o? As mensagens de algumas listas/grupos de discuss�o chegam com o campo "Para:" preenchido com um e-mail que n�o � o seu (e sim o e-mail geral da lista). Para receber estas mensagens em sua pasta de entrada, acesse o Web Mail e clique no op��o Grupos/Listas do AntiSpam UOL. Em seguida, autorize o e-mail das listas que voc� participa. which, as well as I can understand it, suggests that someone subscribed to a mailing list can set that mailing-list as an acceptable sender. What's not clear to me is whether, having done that, it over-rides challenging the originator (e.g. me) of the message. Thanks, and best wishes, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 [NB: New number!] Date: 24-Nov-04 Time: 13:28:49 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ ______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
