On Monday 20 December 2004 15:29, Ted Harding wrote:

[...]

> > The lme4 and nlme packages should not be loaded simultaneously.
> > Use one or the other but not both.
>
> Doug,
> Thanks a lot for these clarifications. This still leaves me with
> a question or two.
>
> Suppose I want (as I do) to work through Pinheiro & Bates, example
> by example. Some datasets are here (lme4), others there (SASmixed,
> nlme), etc.
>
> Does this mean I need to start afresh, loading just the package
> with the dataset currently of interest?

No, you can do 

> data(PBIB, package = "SASmixed")

which loads the dataset without loading the package. If you are using 
nlme, this will give you (essentially) a plain data frame (i.e., it 
won't be a "groupedData" object in the nlme sense). 

Deepayan

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