>>>>> "BDR" == Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> on Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:33:37 +0000 (GMT) writes:
BDR> That this prints as an octal escape was always the
BDR> intention:
excuse me Brian, but "always" is not entirely correct:
Originally (say 6-8 years ago), the intention was really something like
`` iso-latin-1 (= iso-8859-1) should work everywhere;
we don't care yet for anything else ''
and this did work for the most important cases of
ESS, console, X11(), postscript() {but not in some others, IIRC}.
BDR> it is your OS that is telling R that it is
BDR> not a printable character.
yes. Patrick: it's really the case that recent versions of Linux
and other OSes AFAIK really behave differently : They default
to set locales based on UTF-8 whereas before, often locales
where based on iso-* (e.g. iso-8859-1 for "Western Europe"-like).
And even more problematically (if you want to stay back
continuing to use iso-8859-x instead of UTF-8): Man pages and
other files are delivered encoded in UTF-8 as well.
So you are more or less urged to go along with the wave...
BDR> What locale are you in? For me
BDR> 1) In en_GB this works (correct, as that is charset
BDR> ISO-8859-1)
and the same for me with de_CH (but *not* with de_CH.UTF-8
which is what Redhat will set in some circumstances when you
tell it that you are in Zurich ...).
BDR> 2) In C, I get "25\260C" (correct, as that is not an ASCII char)
BDR> My guess is that you have R running in a C locale and
BDR> emacs in a UTF-8 locale, since the UTF-8 representation
BDR> of that symbol is c2b0, in octal \302\260. If that is
BDR> what is going on, 1.8.1 would have been equally
BDR> confused (it might have printed UTF-8, but it would not
BDR> plot it), so I suspect the important change is not the
BDR> one you think it is.
BDR> Note that at least one set of RPMs now runs R in the C
BDR> locale (but that's not part of R per se). If you run
BDR> in en_NZ I think you will find R works to your taste.
BDR> The good news is that R-devel already supports
BDR> en_NZ.utf8, and so 2.1.0 will in a couple of months.
......
Martin
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