Hello, Erithid:

I'm very sorry you feel you got yelled at first thing in the morning. Please try not to take it personally, though I know that may be difficult. After one superficially insulting reply, I just laughed and told my manager, "Look what I learned for exposing myself to ridicule!"

My philosophy on this was expressed last December and subsequently added to the "fortunes" pacakage, from which I will quote for you now:

> library(fortunes)
> fortune("Graves")

Our great-great grandchilren as yet unborn may read some of the stupid questions and/or answers that I and perhaps others give from time to time. I'd rather get flamed for saying something stupid in public on this list than to continue to provide substandard service to the people with whom I work because I perpetrated the same mistake in an environment in which no one questioned so effectively my
errors.
-- Spencer Graves (in a discussion on whether answers on R-help should be more
      polite)
      R-help (December 2004)

I've heard from some of the best on this listserve that it happens to everyone. That doesn't make it right. If you can learn to accept this as a different subculture operating by different rules of diplomacy, you might get more out of this list, do better work with whatever you are attempting to do, and enjoy life more. (My wife's middle name is Rose. When she gives me a hard time about something, I just try to listen and console myself with the thought that, "If I want to sleep in a bed of roses, I must get used to the thorns.")

          Best Wishes,
          spencer graves

BJ wrote:

I just asked a question. If I was too vague, then i am sorry. I dont expect anyone to help me, but I thought that it was ok to put the question out there in case someone wanted to help me. I didnt expect abject hostility for it. Human decency was the only thing I did expect. If my question was a pain,badly formatted, or too juvinile, then i have no problem being ignored.I asked a question that the archives did not satisfactorily answer. I appreciate the help of the poeple on this list as they are an invaluable resource, especially since the R documentation is sketchy at times. I am sorry for wasting everyones time. I just dont like being yelled at first thing in the morning for asking for help on a help list. See you all around ~Erithid

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