I should have also noted there is a huge efficiency gain when using lme4 over 
nlme in that the Matrix package introduces faster matrix operations using 
sparse matrix algorithms.
 
So, while it may take a moment or two longer to load this package, it saves you 
*significant* time when fitting mixed linear models. So, you might view this as 
a cost/benefit trade-off, not a problem.
 
-Harold 

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        Subject: Re: [R] slow loading with lme4
        
        

        It is actually the Matrix package that is taking so long, not lme4. It 
is is extremely large and is required for use with lme4. I think Doug Bates or 
Duncan Murdoch can confirm Matrix() contains more than 6000 or so lines of 
code. But, it is not a problem, it just is what it is.
        
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                Subject: [R] slow loading with lme4
               
               
        
                it takes a long time to load the lme4 package.anyone else 
encounter this problem?
               
                > system.time(library(lme4))
                
载入需要的程辑包:Matrix
                
载入需要的程辑包:lattice
                [1] 19.90  0.30 25.56    NA    NA
               
               
                > version
                         _            
                platform i386-pc-mingw32
                arch     i386         
                os       mingw32      
                system   i386, mingw32
                status   Patched      
                major    2            
                minor    1.0          
                year     2005         
                month    05           
                day      29           
                language R   
               
                OS:windows 2000
                                              
               
               
                2005-06-13
               
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