[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello Martin and others, > > I am happy with this decision. I'll look a little bit at this next week. > > Best, > > Philippe Grosjean > > >>We've had a small "review time" within R-core on this topic, >>amd would like to state the following: >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>The R-core team welcomes proposals to develop an R-wiki. >> >>- We would consider linking a very small number of Wikis (ideally one) >> from www.r-project.org and offering an address in the r-project.org >>domain (such as 'wiki.r-project.org'). >> >>- The core team has no support time to offer, and would be looking for >> a medium-term commitment from a maintainer team for the Wiki(s). >> >>- Suggestions for the R documentation would best be filtered through the >> >> Wiki maintainers, who could e.g. supply suggested patches during the >>alpha phase of an R release. >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Our main concerns have been about ensuring the quality of such extra >>documentation projects, hence the 2nd point above. >>Several of our more general, not mainly R, experiences have been >>of outdated web pages which are continued to be used as >>reference when their advice has long been superseded. >>I think it's very important to try ensuring that this won't >>happen with an R Wiki.
[Tried to send the following a few days ago, but had a problem with my connection:] What about adding a "best before" date on Wiki pages and let moderators extend such dates (by a simple click). If the date for a page is not updated, there will be a warning on that page telling the reader that the content might not be fully valid. MediaWiki is a good solution because there you can write equations in LaTeX, which are generated as Math-ML(?) and/or bitmap images. This feature might be in other wiki system too, I don't know. That's my $0.02 Henrik >>Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich >> >> >>>>>>>"PhGr" == Philippe Grosjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> on Sun, 8 Jan 2006 17:00:44 +0100 (CET) writes: >> >> PhGr> Hello all, Sorry for not taking part of this >> PhGr> discussion earlier, and for not answering Detlef >> PhGr> Steuer, Martin Maechler, and others that asked more >> PhGr> direct questions to me. I am away from my office and >> PhGr> my computer until the 16th of January. >> >> PhGr> Just quick and partial answers: 1) I did not know >> PhGr> about Hamburg RWiki. But I would be happy to merge >> PhGr> both in one or the other way, as Detlef suggests it. >> >> PhGr> 2) I choose DokuWiki as the best engine after a >> PhGr> careful comparison of various Wiki engines. It is the >> PhGr> best one, as far as I know, for the purpose of >> PhGr> writting software documentation and similar >> PhGr> pages. There is an extensive and clearly presented >> PhGr> comparison of many Wikki engines at: >> PhGr> http://www.wikimatrix.org/. >> >> PhGr> 3) I started to change DokuWiki (addition of various >> PhGr> plugins, addition of R code syntax coloring with >> PhGr> GESHI, etc...). So, it goes well beyond all current >> PhGr> Wiki engines regarding its suitability to present R >> PhGr> stuff. >> >> PhGr> 4) The reasons I did this is because I think the Wiki >> PhGr> format could be of a wider use. I plan to change a >> PhGr> little bit the DokuWiki syntax, so that it works with >> PhGr> plain .R code files (Wiki part is simply embedded in >> PhGr> commented lines, and the rest is recognized and >> PhGr> formatted as R code by the Wiki engine). That way, the >> PhGr> same Wiki document can either rendered by the Wiki >> PhGr> engine for a nice presentation, or sourced in R >> PhGr> indifferently. >> >> PhGr> 5) My last idea is to add a Rpad engine to the Wiki, >> PhGr> so that one could play with R code presented in the >> PhGr> Wiki pages and see the effects of changes directly in >> PhGr> the Wiki. >> >> PhGr> 6) Regarding the content of the Wiki, it should be >> PhGr> nice to propose to the authors of various existing >> PhGr> document to put them in a Wiki form. Something like >> PhGr> "Statistics with R" >> PhGr> (http://zoonek2.free.fr/UNIX/48_R/all.html) is written >> PhGr> in a way that stimulates additions to pages in >> PhGr> perpetual construction, if it was presented in a Wiki >> PhGr> form. It is licensed as Creative Commons >> PhGr> Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.5 license, that >> PhGr> is, exactly the same one as DokuWiki that I choose for >> PhGr> R Wiki. Of course, I plan to ask its author to do so >> PhGr> before putting its hundreds of very interesting pages >> PhGr> on the Wiki... I think it is vital to have already >> PhGr> something in the Wiki, in order to attract enough >> PhGr> readers, and then enough contributors! >> >> PhGr> 7) Regarding spamming and vandalism, DokuWiki allows >> PhGr> to manage rights and users, even individually for >> PhGr> pages. I think it would be fine to lock pages that >> PhGr> reach a certain maturity (read-only / editable by >> PhGr> selected users only) , with link to a discussion page >> PhGr> which remaining freely accessible at the bottom of >> PhGr> locked pages. >> >> PhGr> 8) I would be happy to contribute this work to the R >> PhGr> foundation in one way or the other to integrate it in >> PhGr> http://www.r-project.org or >> PhGr> http://cran.r-project.org. But if it is fine keeping >> PhGr> it in http://www.sciviews.org as well, it is also fine >> PhGr> for me. >> >> PhGr> I suggest that all interested people drop a little >> PhGr> email to my mailbox. I'll recontact you when I will >> PhGr> be back to my office to work on a more elaborate >> PhGr> solution altogether when I am back at my office. >> PhGr> Best, >> >> PhGr> Philippe Grosjean >> >> PhGr> ______________________________________________ >> PhGr> [email protected] mailing list >> PhGr> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do >> PhGr> read the posting guide! >> PhGr> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > > ______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > ______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
