Yes Bert, this time you are missing something (unusually) ... As Brian Ripley pointed out 'dnorm' is in the derivative table, *but* only as a function of one variable. So if you want to find the derivative of
dnorm(x, mean, sigma) you have to write it as 1/sigma * dnorm((x - mu)/sigma). Here is a little example: > D(Quote(pnorm((x-mu)/sigma)), "x") dnorm((x - mu)/sigma) * (1/sigma) > D(D(Quote(pnorm((x-mu)/sigma)), "x"), "mu") (x - mu)/sigma * (dnorm((x - mu)/sigma) * (1/sigma)) * (1/sigma) --- Like Brian, I recall the suggestion that we make D(...) extensible. I still think it is a good idea and worth considering. Under one scheme you would specify an object such as Fnorm <- structure(quote(pnorm(x, mu, sigma)), deriv = list(x = Quote(dnorm(x, mu, sigma)/sigms), mu = Quote(-dnorm(x, mu, sigma)/sigma), sigma = Quote(-(x - mu)*dnorm(x, mu, sigma)/sigma^2), class = "dfunction") ane write a generic "differentiate" function with a "dfunction" method and "D" as the default. I don't think it's quite that easy, but the plan is clear enough. Bill. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berton Gunter Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 8:58 AM To: 'Spencer Graves'; r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] D(dnorm...)? dnorm() is an internal function, so I don't see how D (or deriv) can do anything with it symbolically. Am I missing something? -- Bert > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spencer Graves > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:43 PM > To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch > Subject: [R] D(dnorm...)? > > Can someone help me understand the following: > > > D(expression(dnorm(x, mean)), "mean") > [1] 0 > > sessionInfo() > > R version 2.2.1, 2005-12-20, i386-pc-mingw32 > > attached base packages: > [1] "methods" "stats" "graphics" "grDevices" "utils" > "datasets" > [7] "base" > > By my computations, this should be something like > ((mean-x)/sd^2)*dnorm(...). > > Thanks for your help. > Spencer Graves > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide! > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > ______________________________________________ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html ______________________________________________ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html