> Point well taken. You should, however, expect R users > to bring up concerns.
Indeed, and I encourage them to do so. > This isn't a win-win situation as you sound...and you want > to keep s-news in the dark too. As far as I can tell, your messages never appeared on s-news. Perhaps you're not a member of that list? (It has a closed posting policy.) Besides, cross-posting is rarely good form, and the topic seems more relevant here. > Frankly, you didn't address the real issue. How would > Insightful reacts for example if they find R users > repackaging your products named "Infact" or > "Insightful Miner"? or as you said R users (instead of > Splus users) "need access to the cutting-edge, quality > statistical software available>> in Splus (instead of > other way round). Open software is produced under a social (and through the license, a legal) contract: in exchange for the promise to maintain the freedom of the software, all are entitled to use it and improve it. The Insightful products you mention are produced under a different kind of contract -- a proprietary license -- and the revenues from that license pay for its further development. Greater minds than mine have debated the merits of the two kinds of contract, and I shan't get into that here. But just as a call to violate the open source contract would rightly be outrageous to those that produce software under that model, the converse is equally true. > ps. This is my last email on this issue. Then I thank you for the opportunity of the last word. # David Smith -- David M Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Senior Product Manager, Insightful Corp, Seattle WA Tel: +1 (206) 802 2360 Fax: +1 (206) 283 6310 Insightful Corporation (www.insightful.com) provides analytical solutions for text and data using S-PLUS, Insightful Miner, InFact and consulting services. > -----Original Message----- > From: eugene dalt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:51 PM > To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: David Smith > Subject: RE: [R] S-PLUS 8 beta program [repost] > > > Point well taken. You should, however, expect R users > to bring up concerns. This isn't a win-win situation > as > you sound...and you want to keep s-news in the dark > too. > > Frankly, you didn't address the real issue. How would > Insightful reacts for example if they find R users > repackaging your products named "Infact" or > "Insightful Miner"? or as you said R users (instead of > Splus users) "need access to the cutting-edge, quality > statistical software available>> in Splus (instead of > other way round). > > Insightful wants to take any "cutting-edge, quality > statistical software" from R, but they patent any > "cutting-edge, quality statistical software" they > create. Hence my call to people to use any loopholes > to make these available or rewrite them. That would be > win-win. > > ps. This is my last email on this issue. ______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
