Note that the reference to icasualty.com should be icasualty.org. On 5/23/06, Gabor Grothendieck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/19/06, Gabor Grothendieck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I came across this one: > > > > http://www.nysun.com/article/32787 > > > > which says that the violent death rate in Iraq (which presumably > > includes violent deaths from the war) is lower than the violent > > death rate in major American cities. > > > > Does anyone have any insights from statistics on how to > > interpret this? > > > > Since I posted this a number of people have responded online and > offline and have included a number of links. I am providing the > links from the offline responders. > > I was hoping to summarize all this in an objective fashion > focused on statistics but there is enough > information here that I was concerned I might not do a thorough > job so I am simply providing the links plus some short comments > to summarize the links that did not already appear on the list. > > The original idea of making this comparison was apparently due to > US Rep. Steve King and the first link gives > his rebuttal to critics who made similar comments to those > shown on the list so far. His main points are that the data does > not come from him, he used published figures on icasualty.com > (and for US the sources cited in the link) and that his original > comments were in the context of civilian safety and so it would > not be appropriate to include police which is why he excluded them > (I had originally thought it included all violent deaths but that is > not the case). > Since my original post was about vacationing in Iraq I would > think that excluding police would also apply to that too. A number of > people on the list did point out that defining violent death was key. > > http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008402 > > Part of the previous link is in response to the following link: > http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008392#iraq > > Original source of the iraq data: > http://icasualties.org/oif/ > > Story of one person who tried to pursue the numbers: > http://zenbeatnik.blogspot.com/2006/05/where-numbers-lead.html >
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