On 6/19/06, Rick Bilonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 13:58 +0200, Douglas Bates wrote:
> > If I understand correctly Rick it trying to fit a model with random
> > effects on a binary response when there are either 1 or 2 observations
> > per group.

If you look at Rick's examples, it's worse than that; each group
contains identical observations (by design?).

May I suggest:

> glm(y ~ x, family = binomial, data = unique(example.df))

I think lmer gives a very sensible answer to this problem.

Göran

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