On 28-Oct-06 Jean lobry wrote: >> Hallo everyone, >> >> excuse me if this is not a genuine R question but I do not >> know where to ask else. >> >> Referring to e.g. >> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2004-December/062114.html >> >> I wonder if these measurements of 3000 criminals (raw data) >> are available anywhere. At least I didn't find them in the >> R datasets package or by means of Google. What I did find >> was a table of frequencies of the central values for *grouped* >> classifications (finger lenghts) in the Handbook of Small Data >> Sets. >> >> Thank you in advance. >> >> D. Trenkler > > Dietrich, > > I'm not sure, but this is perhaps what you want: > > crim <- > read.table("http://pbil.univ-lyon1.fr/R/donnees/criminals1902.txt";) > > For some R code playing with this dataset, open this (draft) > document: > > http://pbil.univ-lyon1.fr/members/lobry/R/convergencet.pdf > > and jump to section 4. > > HTH, > > Jean
Following up Dietrich's original URL https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2004-December/062114.html I find that the seed for this thread was originally planted by myself! If you go back to that posting, you will read in the quotation from Student (1908): "Before I had succeeded in solving my problem analytically, I had endeavoured to do so empirically. The material used was a correlation table containing the height and left middle finger measurements of 3000 criminals, from a paper by W. R. Macdonnell (Biometrika, I, p. 219). ... " [NB Typo: "Macdonnell" should be "Macdonell"; for "219" see below] The crucial phrase is "correlation table", i.e. a 2-way table of counts in intervals of one variable by intervals of another variable. On that basis, and having looked at Jean's PDF http://pbil.univ-lyon1.fr/members/lobry/R/convergencet.pdf the table on the 11th page thereof (Section 4) seems to be a facsimile reproduction of the corresponding page in the Biometrika article by Macdonell. (I do not have access at the moment to the original Biometrika, so cannot verify this), and that table gives the data as originally published by Macdonell. This is not, of course, the "raw data" which would have been 3000 records each with the measurements of each of the 3000 individuals. But I think that it is as close as one can get! The references to Student's and Macdonell's articles are given in Jean's PDF, including the fact that the table in question was found on Macdonell's p. 216, not 219. Cross-checking Jean's data file http://pbil.univ-lyon1.fr/R/donnees/criminals1902.txt against the Macdonell reproduction shows that the counts are the same, the left-hand margins (finger length in mm) agree, and the top margins also agree on the basis that the heights are given by Jean in cm corresponding to the midpoints of Macdonell's intervals in feet/inches. Thus where Macdonell has 4' 7"9/16 -- 8"9/16, Jean has 142.24 which is 2.54*56 = 2.54*(4' 8"). Hoping that this helps! Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 28-Oct-06 Time: 13:55:28 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ ______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
