On 1/20/07, Marc Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 11:20 +0100, Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote: > > On 1/20/07, Marc Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > xft anti-aliasing is incorporated into the version 23 unicode trunk. > > > > > > So it looks great on a hi-res LCD panel. Without xft, even using > > > Bitstream fonts, it was still pretty rough on the eyes. > > > > > > > > > Humm, call me silly, but most of the time I do not like anti-aliased > > fonts: I tend to agree with > > http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq/entries/Blurred_fonts.html, > > where he says "characters look like having been dragged through mud" > > :-). > > > > > It also fully supports GTK widgets, which is great if you are using > > > GNOME, which I do. > > > > > > > But my .emacs gets rid of the toolbar and scroll bars on start-up (I > > find toolbars confusing things that take up precious screen space), > > and often work without the menubar (when I am doing familiar work). I > > use ion3 (http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/), which, together with > > wmii (and followed, at some distance, by fmwv), I find the most usable > > window managers, and thus the look of widgets is not that relevant to > > me. > > > > So, for most practical purposes (except for resizing with the mouse) I > > use emacs as if started with the -w command. (I know, I know, this > > looks like going backwards ... must be a mid-life involution crisis > > :-). > > We'll drag you kicking and screaming into the 21st century... > > ;-) >
I was afraid someone would suggest that sooner or later :-). > > > xft was added as a patch to version 22, but it was not very stable. > > > > > > Note that version 23 is in alpha status, so use at your own risk if you > > > decide to pursue this. 21 is still the current stable release version, > > > but 23 has been rock solid for me. > > > > > > I can provide you with a shell script to build it. Let me know. > > > > > > > > > Let me try with the debian packages, and if I have problems, I'll > > definitely start bugging you. Thanks a lot for your help! > > > > Best, > > > > R. > > FWIW, here are some screen shots so that you can get a feel for what it > looks like. This is using two 1600x1200 lcd panels. > > 1. Basic view of main window, showing ECB and ESS: > > http://home.comcast.net/~marc_schwartz/emacs23.png > > 2. Full screen (3200x1600 using nVidia TwinView) capture to show GTK > file selection widget: > > http://home.comcast.net/~marc_schwartz/emacs23-2.png > > 3. View of main window to show the integration of SVN version control, > which I use my all of my R code: > > http://home.comcast.net/~marc_schwartz/emacs23-3.png > Hey, those look very neat! (I'd get rid of all those toolbars :-). But very neat. Time to try it. (But no way I am giving up ion3). > > No doubt that the use of xft is a personal choice, and some folks do not > like it, perhaps notably on CRTs. As I have gotten older and need > bi-focals for computer work and reading, I find the use of xft much > easier and I am less prone to eye strain, given how many hours I > typically spend working each day. > Marc, but the solution for that problem are not xft fonts. The solution is ... working less hours. (I'll blackmail my boss: if you force me to work more hours, I'll use xft fonts. I bet it'll be a great strategy). Best > HTH, > > Marc > > > -- Ramon Diaz-Uriarte Statistical Computing Team Structural Biology and Biocomputing Programme Spanish National Cancer Centre (CNIO) http://ligarto.org/rdiaz ______________________________________________ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.