You can see how it looks to most readers by viewing it on gmane: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.r.general/78065
Note that even though the subject has been changed its still listed as a child of another message rather than the start of a new thread. On 1/31/07, Tony Plate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your final paragraph has the take-home message for everyone (not just MS > Outlook users): "just create, from scratch, a new message when > initiating a new subject." > > Viewing threads can be completely different to sorting based on the > subject line. Your initial post with the subject "regexpr and parsing > question" was in fact a reply to the message from Gabor Grothendick in > the thread "Re: [R] change plotting symbol for groups in trellis graph." > (I can see this by looking at the header information: I see a > "In-reply-to:" header item.) > > When I view threads in the Thunderbird mail reader, your post and > replies with the subject "regexpr and parsing question" do in fact show > up under the thread in which Gabor's message appeared, not in their own > thread. > > According to > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA011356671033.aspx, one can > view threads in Outlook by selecting "View->Arrange By->Conversation". > > Hope this helps (in case the horse was not thoroughly dead already.) > > -- Tony Plate > > Kimpel, Mark William wrote: > > See below for Bert Gunter's off list reply to me (which I do > > appreciate). I'm putting it back on the list because it seems there is > > still confusion regarding the difference between threading and sorting > > by subject. I thought the example I will give below will serve as > > instructional for other Outlook users who may be similarly confused as I > > was (am?). > > > > Per Bert's instructions, I just set up my inbox to sort by subject. I > > sent one email to myself with the subject "test1" and then replied to it > > without changing the subject. The reply correctly went to "test1" in the > > inbox sorter. I then changed the subject heading in the test1 reply to > > "test2" and sent it to myself. This time Outlook re-categorized it and > > put it in a separate compartment in the view called "test2". > > > > If Outlook can do threading the way the R mail server does, I don't > > think this is the way to do it. > > > > Unless someone has an idea of how to correctly set up Outlook to do > > threading in the manner that the R mail server does, I think the message > > for us Outlook users is to just create, from scratch, a new message when > > initiating a new subject. > > > > Thanks for all your help. > > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bert Gunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:03 PM > > To: Kimpel, Mark William > > Subject: Outlook does threading > > > > Mark: > > > > No need to bother the R list with this. Outlook does threading. Just > > sort on > > Subject in the viewer. > > > > Bert Gunter > > Genentech Nonclinical Statistics > > South San Francisco, CA 94404 > > 650-467-7374 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kimpel, Mark > > William > > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:36 PM > > To: Peter Dalgaard > > Cc: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [R] possible spam alert > > > > Peter, > > > > Thanks you for your explanation, I had taken Mr. Connolly's message to > > me to imply that I was not changing the subject line. I use MS Outlook > > 2007 and, unless I am just not seeing it, Outlook does not normally > > display the "in reply to" header, I was under the mistaken impression > > that that was what the Subject line was for. See, for example, the > > header to your message to me below. Outlook will, however, sort messages > > by Subject, and that is what I thought was meant by threading. > > > > Well, I learned something today and apologize for any inconvenience my > > posts may have caused. > > > > BTW, I use Outlook because it is supported by my university server and > > will synch my appointments and contacts with my PDA, which runs Windows > > CE. If anyone has a suggestion for me of a better email program that > > will provide proper threading AND work with a MS email server and synch > > with Windows CE, I'd love to hear it. > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Mark > > > > Mark W. Kimpel MD > > > > > > > > (317) 490-5129 Work, & Mobile > > > > > > > > (317) 663-0513 Home (no voice mail please) > > > > 1-(317)-536-2730 FAX > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Dalgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:25 PM > > To: Kimpel, Mark William > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [R] possible spam alert > > > > Kimpel, Mark William wrote: > > > >>The last two times I have originated message threads on R or > >>Bioconductor I have received the message included below from someone > >>named Patrick Connolly. Both times I was the originator of the message > >>thread and used what I thought was a unique subject line that > > > > explained > > > >>as best I could what my question was. Patrick seems to be implying > > > > that > > > >>I am abusing the R and BioC help newsgroups in this fashion. > >> > >>When I emailed him to give me a specific example, he did not reply. > > > > The > > > >>most recent thread that he seems concerned about was to the R list and > >>was entitled "regexpr and parsing question" . I believe the previous > >>post of mine that he had problems with was to the BioC list but I > > > > can't > > > >>remember its subject. > >> > >>Is this spam? > >> > > > > No. Breach of netiquette, yes. > > > > The message in question starts a new thread, yet contains an > > In-Reply-To: header line, which presumably means that you started > > writing the message as a reply to something completely unrelated, > > specifically: "Re: [R] change plotting symbol for groups in trellis > > graph". You should not do that, unless you know how to remove the > > In-Reply-To line (and this is not obvious in many mail clients); > > changing the subject is not sufficient. > > > >>If I am doing this correctly, you should see the subject "possible > > > > spam > > > >>alert" in the subject header of THIS message. > >> > >>Would the moderators of the lists please check and see if I am doing > >>some wrong and, if not, inform Mr. Connolly that I am not. If others > >>have received this message in error, it is possible it is spam and > > > > users > > > >>should be alerted. > >> > >>Thanks, > >> > >>Mark > >> > >>Mark W. Kimpel MD > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Official Business Address: > >> > >> > >> > >>Department of Psychiatry > >> > >>Indiana University School of Medicine > >> > >>PR M116 > >> > >>Institute of Psychiatric Research > >> > >>791 Union Drive > >> > >>Indianapolis, IN 46202 > >> > >> > >>This is a request to anyone who starts a new subject to begin with a > > > > new > > > >>message and NOT reply to an existing one. If your mail client is any > >>good, it's very simple to set up an alias (mine is simply 'r') so that > >>the tedious task of typing '[email protected]' is unnecessary > > > > and > > > >>it's quicker than scrolling through an address book. > >>It's also quicker than deleting the previous subject. > >> > >>Most mornings, I have over a screenful of messages mostly from R-help > >>and it's very useful to have them threaded. However, the usefulness > > > > of > > > >>threading is lost when posters reply to a message and then change the > >>subject instead of creating a new message. > >> > >>People who don't have a mail client that can display email in threads > >>are probably unaware that this sort of thing can happen in ones that > > > > do: > > > >> > >> 37 N 25 Jan Luis Silva ( 34) [R] plot/screen > >> 38 N 25 Jan Uwe Ligges ( 55) `-> > >> 39 N 25 Jan Fernando Henrique Ferra ( 20) [R] Plotting coloured > >>histograms > >>-> 40 N 26 Jan Mohamed A. Kerasha ( 12) |->[R] Distributions. > >> 41 N 26 Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( 26) | |-> > >> 42 26 Jan Qin Xin ( 9) | `->[R] how could I > > > > add > > > >>legends > >> 43 27 Jan Ko-Kang Kevin Wang ( 31) | `-> > >> 44 N 26 Jan Remigijus Lapinskas ( 32) |->Re: [R] Plotting > >>coloured his > >> 45 N 26 Jan Damon Wischik (125) `-> > >> 46 N 25 Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( 10) [R] plotting > > > > primatives, > > > >>ellipse > >> 47 N 25 Jan Uwe Ligges ( 19) `-> > >> > >> > >>As Martin Maechler explained some time ago, it also screws up the > >>archives for a similar reason. > >> > >>Your cooperation will be greatly appreciated. > >> > >>best > >> > >> > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > [email protected] mailing list > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > ______________________________________________ > > [email protected] mailing list > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > ______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > ______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
