Martin Maechler wrote: >>>>>> "Frank" == Frank E Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:59:45 -0600 writes: > > Frank> Matthew Keller wrote: > >> Bob, > >> > >> Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one > >> that I imagine most people who use R have come > >> across. The name "R" is a big impediment to effective > >> online searches. As a check, I entered "R software", "SAS > >> software", SPSS software", and "S+ software" into > >> google. The R 'hit rate' was only ten out of the first 20 > >> results (I didn't look any further). For the other three > >> software packages, the hit rates were all 100% (20/20). > >> > >> I do wonder if anything can/should be done about this. I > >> generally search using the term "CRAN" but of course, > >> that omits lots of stuff relevant to R. Any ideas about > >> how to do effective online searches for "R" related > >> materials? > > I don't think we (the R foundation) will ever change away from > "R".. > > >> > >> Matt > > Frank> I just googled for "R" and www.r-project.org was the > Frank> first hit. Don't see a problem at present. > > We are getting really off-topic, but that's interesting: > > We all know that Google is helping the Chinese government to > censor their own people, so searches there can lead to > completely different results. But even here in Zurich > Switzerland, I get quite a different hitlist : > > 1) stat.ethz.ch/~statsoft/stat.programme/R.html [in German] > > 2) Our local CRAN mirror: stat.ethz.ch/CRAN/ > > 3) R - (German-language) Wikipedia about letter "R": de.wikipedia.org/wiki/R > > 4) DVD-R - (German-language) Wikipedia de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R > > 5) The R Project for Statistical Computing http://www.r-project.org/ > > So 3/5 are related to R which sounds good, but actually these 3 > are all from the first twenty: 3/20. > > Martin
Interesting. I just tried www.google.ca and got 1) The R Project for Statistical Computing http://www.r-project.org/ 2) Wikipedia on the letter R (which also does mention the R software). 3) CRAN: cran.r-project.org 4) R Commander with a pretty respectable number of hits in the next 50, and the sponsored link is "Mango Solutions provide training and consulting on the R language." Paul > > > >> On 2/6/07, Wensui Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I've been looking for job that allows me to use R/S+ > >>> since I got out of graduate school 2 years ago but with > >>> no success. I am wondering if there is something that > >>> can be done to promote the use of R in industry. > >>> > >>> It's been very frustrating to see people doing > >>> statistics using excel/spss and even more frustrating to > >>> see people paying $$$ for something much inferior to R. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 2/6/07, Doran, Harold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> The other day, CNN had a story on working at > >>>> Google. Out of curiosity, I went to the Google > >>>> employment web site (I'm not looking, but just > >>>> curious). In perusing their job posts for > >>>> statisticians, preference is given to those who use R > >>>> and python. Other languages, S-Plus and something > >>>> called SAS were listed as lower priorities. > >>>> > >>>> When I started using Python, I noted they have a > >>>> portion of the web site with job postings. CRAN does > >>>> not have something similar, but think it might be > >>>> useful. I think R is becoming more widely used in > >>>> industry and I wonder if helping it move along a bit, > >>>> the maintainer of CRAN could create a section of the > >>>> web site devoted to jobs where R is a requirement. > >>>> > >>>> Hence, we could have our own little "monster.com" kind > >>>> of thing going on. Of the multitude of ways the gospel > >>>> can be spread, this is small. But, I think every small > >>>> step forward is good. > >>>> > >>>> Anyone think this is useful? > >>>> > >>>> Harold > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > >>>> > >>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>> R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > >>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do > >>>> read the posting guide > >>>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide > >>>> commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> WenSui Liu A lousy statistician who happens to know a > >>> little programming > >>> (http://spaces.msn.com/statcompute/blog) > >>> > >>> ______________________________________________ > >>> R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do > >>> read the posting guide > >>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide > >>> commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > >>> > >> > > > Frank> -- Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chair School of > Frank> Medicine Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt > Frank> University > > Frank> ______________________________________________ > Frank> R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > Frank> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE > Frank> do read the posting guide > Frank> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and > Frank> provide commented, minimal, self-contained, > Frank> reproducible code. > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ==================================================================================== La version française suit le texte anglais. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This email may contain privileged and/or confidential inform...{{dropped}} ______________________________________________ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.