You can use the LSD.test or waller.test of the package agricolae that less conservatives than tukey.
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Frederic Jean Sent: Fri 3/2/2007 4:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [R] significant anova but no distinct groups ? Dear all, I am studying a dataset using the aov() function. The independant variable 'cds' is a factor() with 8 levels and here is the result in studying the dependant variable 'rta' with aov() : > summary(aov(rta ~ cds)) Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value Pr(>F) cds 7 0.34713 0.04959 2.3807 0.02777 Residuals 92 1.91635 0.02083 The dependant variable 'rta' is normally distributed and variances are homogeneous. But when studying the result with TukeyHSD, no differences in 'rta' are seen among groups of 'cds' : > TukeyHSD(aov(rta ~ cds), which="cds") Tukey multiple comparisons of means 95% family-wise confidence level Fit: aov(formula = rta ~ cds) $cds diff lwr upr p adj 1-0 -0.1046092796 -0.4331100 0.22389141 0.9751178 2-0 0.0359991860 -0.1371359 0.20913425 0.9980970 3-0 0.0261665235 -0.1348524 0.18718540 0.9996165 4-0 0.0004502442 -0.1805448 0.18144531 1.0000000 5-0 -0.1438949939 -0.3104752 0.02268526 0.1422670 [...] 7-5 0.0621598639 -0.1027595 0.22707926 0.9386170 7-6 0.0256519274 -0.1757408 0.22704465 0.9999248 I tried a pairwise.t.test (holm correction) which also was not able to detect differences in 'rta' among groups of 'cds' I've never been confronted to such a situation before : is it just a problem of power of the /a posteriori/ tests used ? Do I miss something important in basic stats or in R ? How to highlight differences among 'cds' groups seen with aov() ? Any help appreciated Thanks in advance, Fred J. ______________________________________________ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.