I agree with Bert on this one! Any commercial entity's future policies will not be decided by some group's past understanding. Everything can be explained in terms of shareholder value.
I don't see any advantages with tying up to Google groups. We get enough posts every day here to keep us all busy with even a fraction of them. I also think people should be encouraged to follow the policies such as read the basics "An Intro" etc, before running off and posting. Besides, and most importantly, I prefer having statisticians or those interested in statistics applied to their problems discuss their issues and software, and I learn a lot in this mailing list even in lurk mode. I could do without random posters. Btw, anyone using R should be encouraged to use RSiteSearch to search this mailing list on some topic. Best, Ranjan On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:36:33 -0400 "Paul Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I don't see what danger could arise from the fact that Google > Groups is owned by a company. Google Groups provides access to all of > usenet, plus many mailing lists (e.g. the ruby-talk mailing list for > Ruby programmers). They don't control any of the newgroups or mailing > lists that they provide access to. It is a free service, supported by > advertising. > > As for the issue of whether there might be future access problems > (e.g. if Google goes bankrupt, which currently seems unlikely) R > users would still have access to the r-help list through the means > that they have now. I am not recommending replacing any of the > current means of access to the r-help list; I am just asking about > adding an additional means of access. > > --Paul > > On 3/14/07, Bert Gunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know nothing about Google Groups, but FWIW, I think it would be most > > unwise for R/CRAN to hook up to **any** commercially sponsored web portals. > > Future changes in their policies, interfaces,or access conditions may make > > them inaccessible or unfreindly to R users. So long as we have folks willing > > and able to host and maintain our lists as part of the CRAN infrastructure, > > CRAN maintains control. I think this is wise and prudent. > > > > I am happy to be educated to the contrary if I misunderstand how this would > > work. > > > > Bert Gunter > > Genentech Nonclinical Statistics > > South San Francisco, CA 94404 > > 650-467-7374 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Lynch > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 8:48 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [R] Connecting R-help and Google Groups? > > > > This morning I tried to see if I could find the r-help mailing list on > > Google Groups, which has an interface that I like. I found three > > Google Groups ("The R Project for Statistical Computing", "rproject", > > and "rhelp") but none of them are connected to the r-help list. > > > > Is there perhaps some reason why it wouldn't be a good thing for there > > to be a connected Google Group? I think it should be possible to set > > things up so that a post to the Google Group goes to the r-help > > mailing list, and vice-versa. > > > > Also, does anyone know why the three existing R Google Groups failed > > to get connected to r-help? It might require some action on the part > > of the r-help list administrator. > > > > Thanks, > > --Paul > > > > -- > > Paul Lynch > > Aquilent, Inc. > > National Library of Medicine (Contractor) > > > > ______________________________________________ > > [email protected] mailing list > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > > > > -- > Paul Lynch > Aquilent, Inc. > National Library of Medicine (Contractor) > > ______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > ______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
