Here's one thing to add to the discussion of how mcmcsamp affects lmer objects (discussion by Rabagliati, Frank, and Bates): the changes that mcmcsamp makes to the lmer object result in crashes when one attempts to apply aovlmer.fnc to the lmer crashing, producing error messages (see, e.g., http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-aovlmer.fnc-in-languageR-td20706128.html ). I had corresponded with Harald Baayen, who verified the problem, and noted that the p values returned by current versions of mcmcsamp may not be the same as those returned by older versions. I am delighted that Dr. Bates is now aware of the problem.

Chuck Clifton

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Charles Clifton
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