Hi Basil,

Sandra Pavoine has a nice R script for dealing with different data types in
the same analysis, which creates a dissimilarity matrix that can be input
directly into FD: http://goo.gl/C9jUM

Dylan


On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Basil Iannone <bian...@uic.edu> wrote:

> Dear Dr. Hamlim and other R Users,
>
> I apologize for not stating this in my prior email, but I am working in R,
> and I am using the "gowdis" function in the "FD" package and the "simprof"
> function in the "clustsig" package to do my analysis. I also tried
> calculating the Gower's distance matrix among my observations using "daisy"
> in the package "cluster" but I philosophically like the way that "gowdis"
> treats ordered/ordinal variables (i.e.,following Podani 1999's
> suggestions). Regardless of using "daisy" or "gowdis", I had the same
> problem.
>
> Thank you much for requesting these clarifications.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM, halim10-fes <halim10-...@sust.edu> wrote:
>
> > Dear Basil,
> >
> > Are you using any R package for your Analysis? For e.g.
> > 'clustsig','PRIMER',
> > etc. If you are using 'PRIMER', you can alternatively try using
> 'clustsig'
> > and
> > let us know what happened.
> >
> > Waiting eagerly to hear from you and others.
> >
> > P.S. Have you read the following article?
> >
> > CLARKE KR, SOMERFIELD PJ, GORLEY RN (2008) Exploratory null hypothesis
> > testing for community data: similarity profiles and biota-environment
> > linkage. J Exp Mar Biol Ecol 366, 56-69
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > ---------------
> > Md. Abdul Halim
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Forestry and Environmental Science
> > Shahjalal University of Science and Technology,Sylhet-3114,
> > Bangladesh.
> > Cell: +8801714078386.
> > alt. e-mail: xo...@yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 18:37:33 -0500, Basil Iannone wrote
> > > Dear R users,
> > >
> > > I am trying to conduct a simprof analysis to determine if groups of
> > objects
> > > form statistically significant clusters.
> > >
> > > The variables that I am using are a mixture of categorical, ordered,
> > > and numerical. I am therefore using Gower's distance for this
> > > analysis. Below is the code with my commentary.
> > >
> > > ### Below specifies the columns of the larger dataframe to use to
> > calculate
> > > ### distances among the objects in my dataset
> > >
> > > Fv<-F[,8:31]
> > >
> > > ### I feed the function below into the code for conducting simprof
> > analyses
> > > to
> > > ###  specify what distance measure to use, i.e., to what
> > "method.distance"
> > > is ###  equal.
> > >
> > > G.Matrix <- function (Fv) FD::gowdis(Fv, ord = "metric")
> > >
> > > ### I then do the analysis.
> > >
> > > Fsp <- simprof(Fv, num.expected=1000, num.simulated=999,
> > >                 method.cluster="average", method.distance=G.Matrix,
> > >                 alpha = 0.01, silent=FALSE, increment=100)
> > >
> > > After that, I get the following error message:
> > >
> > >                    Error in FD::gowdis(Fv, ord = "metric") :
> > >                      x is not a dataframe or a numeric matrix
> > >
> > > So it appears that the data used in a simprof analysis has to be
> numeric
> > >
> > > (which mine is not). The code structure does work when I use a
> dataframe
> > > with purely numeric data. So my questions are:
> > >
> > > 1) Is there a way in R to run a Simprof analysis on data that is not
> > > all numerical?
> > >
> > > 2) If not, why? That is, why can't simprof analyses be done on
> > > non-numerical data. I read Clarke and Gorley's explanation in their
> > PRIMER
> > > manual of Simprof analyses and I was unclear from their description
> > > as to why Simprof analyses cannot be conducted on non-numerical data.
> > >
> > > Finally, any suggested readings on the topic would be greatly
> > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for any assistance.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Basil V. Iannone III
> > > University of Illinois at Chicago
> > > Department of Biological Sciences (MC 066)
> > > 845 W. Taylor St.
> > > Chicago, IL  60607-7060
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