Dear Alexandre,

If your variables have only positive values, there will be strong correlation between linear, quadratic and cubic terms that leads to high VIF. You can avoid it by centering the variables before calculating quadratic and cubic terms:

quadratic<-(x-mean(x))^2
cubic<-(x-mean(x))^3

Regards,

Zoltan


2013.10.03. 14:49 keltezéssel, Alexandre Fadigas de Souza írta:
Dear colleagues,

    I am working on a Linear Mixed Model with nested structure, based on the 
book of Zuur et al. 2009. Mixed Effects Models and Extensions in Ecology with 
R, and have a question to ask to those of you more experienced with this model 
family.

    I am using several topographic variables (elevation, slope, convexity, 
facing) and one light-related variable (canopy openness) to explain species 
abundance variation in 85 plots placed on 17 transects dispersed through a 
coastal vegetation complex on sandy soils in northeastern Brazil. The dependent 
variable is axes of a floristic ordination (e.g., NMDS), with one separate 
model adjusted for each axis.

    I will use two levels of spatial aggregation as random factors: the 
transects (5 plots per transect) and broad transect clusters (transect clusters 
were logistically conditioned).

    In the ecological literature, I have seen the suggestion of including 
quadratic and even cubic versions of the fixed effects variables (in this case 
topographic and light) as a means to account for possible nonlinear effects of 
these variables on the dependent variable. One recent example is

Brunbjerg, A.K., Ejrnæs, R., Svenning, J.-C., 2012. Species sorting dominates 
plant metacommunity structure in coastal dunes. Acta Oecologica 39, 33–42.

    However, the inclusion of such quadratic and/or cubic terms in the model 
produces high colinearity levels (VIF > 25, sometimes even 38!).

    Do you think this is a valid procedure, the inclusion of these polynomial 
terms?
Thank you in advance for any ideas,

    Alexandre

Dr. Alexandre F. Souza
Professor Adjunto II Departamento de Botanica, Ecologia e Zoologia  
Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Norte (UFRN)  
http://www.docente.ufrn.br/alexsouza  Curriculo: lattes.cnpq.br/7844758818522706

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