Hello Rich, I may be able to provide some insight into this... Apologies in advance if my response is too big. (First time user)
1: I would think they are included because of familiarity and different usage scenario's. (see 2). ANOSIM has some advantages under very specific usage scenario's, which would make it hang around, and also, when it comes to things like this, where there are multiple options for multiple different usage scenarios, it makes sense to keep as many packages "online": This would provide alternative choices in the event of a package failing to operate, or user preference. 2: The main thing that ADONIS has over ANOSIM/MRPP is partitioning of variance, allowing for interaction terms. ANOSIM isn't as nice in it's approach, simply clumping together "replicates" and doing seperate permutations (As you know already). mrpp also does this (Does not allow for interpretation of complex experimental design). ANOSIM/MRPP would be used for simple experiments, where you would believe there to be no interactions, typically 1 factor designs (eg; Is there a difference in species composition at two sites on an urban road). Also, the similarity co-efficients used are different; As far as I am aware, ANOSIM uses Bray-Curtis measures, whereas MRPP has got options. This further differentiates ANOSIM from MRPP: Essentially, MRPP can be used for different data types (in combination with experimental designs) wheras in my experience, ANOSIM is restricted to Bray-Curtis, eg: I'd use MRPP for 1 factor presence/absence, and ANOSIM for 1 factor abundance indices. Having said all of that; from my personal experience I'd recommend to just default to ADONIS: It allows for multi-factorial designs with interactions, multivariate designs with interactions, the amount of information it retains is better than ANOSIM and MRPP (ANOSIM/MRPP are rank based, whereas ADONIS uses the actual indice), and generally speaking, the results are easier to interpret. Cheers Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 08:17:13 -0800 From: ml-node+s471788n757848...@n2.nabble.com To: alexander.angelo...@hotmail.com Subject: Multivariate Analyses of Ecological Communities I've read the docs for anosim, adonis, and mrpp and am currently reading the vegan tutorial. Toward the end of the anosim and mprr docs the author writes that each has potential shortcomings and recommends the adonis package be used instead. This leads to my two questions: 1) Why are anosin and mrpp packages still maintained and included? That they are suggests question 2) Under what circumstances are these two packages appropriately used? TIA, Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | Have knowledge, will travel. Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. | <http://www.appl-ecosys.com> Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863 _______________________________________________ R-sig-ecology mailing list [hidden email] https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-ecology If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://r-sig-ecology.471788.n2.nabble.com/Multivariate-Analyses-of-Ecological-Communities-tp7578489.html To unsubscribe from r-sig-ecology, click here. NAML -- View this message in context: http://r-sig-ecology.471788.n2.nabble.com/Multivariate-Analyses-of-Ecological-Communities-tp7578489p7578493.html Sent from the r-sig-ecology mailing list archive at Nabble.com. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] _______________________________________________ R-sig-ecology mailing list R-sig-ecology@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-ecology