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On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 7:40 AM Kanfra, Xorla <xorla.kan...@julius-kuehn.de>
wrote:

> Dear All,
> Sorry to use this thread for communication. I subscribed to this forum
> just a few days ago but couldn’t manage to communicate across the board.
> Please pardon me. If any of you can help me get around a statistical
> challenge
> I have just started using manyglm to analyze nematode with associated
> microbial community data and I am really happy with how robust the
> algorithm works. I have a question about the adjusted p- values. I run a
> pairwise comparison for one of my factors but the p-values generated were
> all the same for each pair of comparison. Is this output normal? besides,
> are the p-values adjusted when running the pairwise comparison? Which
> method does it use? ex Tukey, FDR, Holm, BH, etc. I am a bit confused as I
> do not understand really what is going on behind the scripts.
> Below is the script I used.
> Thanks and hoping to hear from you soon
> Xorla Kanfra
>
> mod_pairwise <-anova.manyglm(otutable.glm, nBoot=199, cor.type = "I", test
> = "LR", p.uni="adjusted",pairwise.comp = ~envdata$soil)
>
> Analysis of Deviance Table
>
> Model: manyglm(formula = otutable.fv, family = "negative.binomial")
>
> Multivariate test:
>                               Res.Df Df.diff   Dev Pr(>Dev)
> (Intercept)                       88
> envdata$soil                      81       7 42968    0.005 **
> envdata$response                  80       1  4824    0.005 **
> envdata$soil:envdata$response     73       7 16066    0.005 **
> ---
> Signif. codes:  0 ‘***’ 0.001 ‘**’ 0.01 ‘*’ 0.05 ‘.’ 0.1 ‘ ’ 1
>
> Pairwise comparison results:
>                                    Observed statistic Free Stepdown
> Adjusted P-Value
> envdata$soil:H vs envdata$soil:HH                6945
>     0.005 **
> envdata$soil:E vs envdata$soil:HH                6881
>     0.005 **
> envdata$soil:HH vs envdata$soil:R                6471
>     0.005 **
> envdata$soil:HH vs envdata$soil:M                6458
>     0.005 **
> envdata$soil:E vs envdata$soil:EE                6301
>     0.005 **
> envdata$soil:HH vs envdata$soil:K                6032
>     0.005 **
> envdata$soil:R vs envdata$soil:RR                5993
>     0.005 **
> envdata$soil:EE vs envdata$soil:RR               5855
>     0.005 **
> envdata$soil:EE vs envdata$soil:M                5835
>     0.005 **
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R-sig-ecology [mailto:r-sig-ecology-boun...@r-project.org] On
> Behalf Of Thierry Onkelinx
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:07 PM
> To: Manuel Spínola
> Cc: r-sig-ecology@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R-sig-eco] Ecological datasets for teaching statistics
>
> Dear Manuel,
>
> Our institute has published 54 datasets under an open data licence at GBIF
> (
>
> https://www.gbif.org/dataset/search?publishing_org=1cd669d0-80ea-11de-a9d0-f1765f95f18b
> )
>
> You can look for local data on GBIF too.
>
> Best regards,
>
> ir. Thierry Onkelinx
> Statisticus / Statistician
>
> Vlaamse Overheid / Government of Flanders
> INSTITUUT VOOR NATUUR- EN BOSONDERZOEK / RESEARCH INSTITUTE FOR NATURE AND
> FOREST
> Team Biometrie & Kwaliteitszorg / Team Biometrics & Quality Assurance
> thierry.onkel...@inbo.be
> Havenlaan 88 bus 73, 1000 Brussel
> www.inbo.be
>
>
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> than asking him to perform a post-mortem examination: he may be able to say
> what the experiment died of. ~ Sir Ronald Aylmer Fisher
> The plural of anecdote is not data. ~ Roger Brinner
> The combination of some data and an aching desire for an answer does not
> ensure that a reasonable answer can be extracted from a given body of data.
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>
> Op do 18 jun. 2020 om 19:58 schreef Manuel Spínola <mspinol...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Thank you very much Rich.
> >
> > Yes, you are right, is a very broad spectrum.
> >
> > I teach mainly to wildlife ecology students.
> >
> > I was using several datasets from different sources for homeworks and
> > final projects, but some of the students were "sharing" the results of
> the
> > assignments so I decided to assign different datasets to each student for
> > their homeworks.  This means that I need several datasets for each
> > assignment, and the data need to be similar in the structure, for
> example,
> > logistic regression, the response variable needs to be binary, and so on.
> >
> > Manuel
> >
> >
> >
> > El jue., 18 jun. 2020 a las 11:41, Rich Shepard (<
> rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
> > >)
> > escribió:
> >
> > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020, Manuel Spínola wrote:
> > >
> > > > I teach statistics to students in ecology and environmental sciences
> > > > fields and I would like to know if you could point me in the right
> > > > direction of sources of ecological/environmental datasets within and
> > > > outside packages, especially for general/generalized linear models
> and
> > > > multivariate statistics.
> > >
> > > Manuel,
> > >
> > > Ecology, and it's applied focus Environmental science, are very broad.
> > I've
> > > been working with these data for several decades so I need to ask what
> > > types
> > > of data you want.
> > >
> > > I don't know what's available from Costa Rican agencies but I do know
> > that
> > > in the US you can get geochemical, biological, hydrologidal, and other
> > data
> > > from the US Geological Survay, Environmental Protection Agency (if
> > they've
> > > not removed them), Department of Agriculture's Forest Service and
> Natural
> > > Resources Conservation Service.
> > >
> > > You can also look at StreamNet run by the Pacific States Marine
> Fisheries
> > > Council, The Army Corps of Engineers for hydraulic, flow, and sediment
> > > transport data.
> > >
> > > That's a start.
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
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