Thanks David. I’m not sure I completely follow. Are you referring to sandwich 
type estimators like that implemented by using cluster() instead of a frailty 
term?
Could you please also clarify your last sentence? 

On Feb 12, 2015, at 10:52 PM, David Winsemius <dwinsem...@comcast.net> wrote:

> 
> On Feb 12, 2015, at 5:50 PM, Steve Bellan wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, I'm fitting a coxph gamma frailty model to simulated survival data 
>> and running into situations where I have 0 events in one covariate class and 
>> the model won't converge. I'd still like a p-value in those cases as this is 
>> part of a power analysis. With enough person-time observed 20 events in one 
>> group and 0 in another is likely significant, but I want a p-value to be 
>> sure. Firth's correction in ‘coxphf’ seems appropriate but coxphf doesn't 
>> seem to deal with random effects. Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
>> 
> 
> I would have expected power analyses in mixed model situations to be 
> conducted with bootstrap methods. In that setting you could just collect the 
> zero event cases in one category and use then as part of the denominator.
> 
> -- 
> 
> David Winsemius
> Alameda, CA, USA
> 

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