On Wed, 16 Apr 2025, peter dalgaard wrote:


Hm? That should be unnecessary if you have the corresponding lines in config.site in your build directory when running configure.

Yes, but I prefer to use configure arguments, so having a record in config.log in the build directory.


Anyways, I don't think there is a reason to remove version 9. Those configure *Config.sh scripts should ensure that you pick up version 8 for the build.

No, tk8-devel and tk-devel do not cohabit in Fedora 42:

# dnf install tk8-devel
Updating and loading repositories:
Repositories loaded.
Failed to resolve the transaction:
Problem: problem with installed package
- installed package tk-devel-1:9.0.0-4.fc42.x86_64 conflicts with tk8-devel provided by tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.fc42.i686 from fedora - package tk-devel-1:9.0.0-4.fc42.x86_64 from fedora conflicts with tk8-devel provided by tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.fc42.i686 from fedora
  - conflicting requests
- installed package tk-devel-1:9.0.0-4.fc42.x86_64 conflicts with tk8-devel provided by tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.fc42.x86_64 from fedora - package tk-devel-1:9.0.0-4.fc42.x86_64 from fedora conflicts with tk8-devel provided by tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.fc42.x86_64 from fedora
You can try to add to command line:
--allowerasing to allow removing of installed packages to resolve problems
  --skip-broken to skip uninstallable packages
# dnf install --allowerasing tk8-devel
Updating and loading repositories:
Repositories loaded.
Package Arch Version Repository Size
Removing dependent packages:
tcl-devel x86_64 1:9.0.0-7.fc42 fedora 830.6 KiB tk-devel x86_64 1:9.0.0-4.fc42 fedora 1.1 MiB
Installing:
tk8-devel x86_64 1:8.6.15-5.fc42 fedora 985.5 KiB
Installing dependencies:
tcl8-devel x86_64 1:8.6.15-10.fc42 fedora 793.4 KiB

Transaction Summary:
 Installing:         2 packages
 Removing:           2 packages

Total size of inbound packages is 710 KiB. Need to download 710 KiB.
After this operation, 158 KiB will be freed (install 2 MiB, remove 2 MiB).
Is this ok [y/N]: y
[1/2] tcl8-devel-1:8.6.15-10.fc42.x86_6 100% | 404.8 KiB/s | 169.6 KiB | 00m00s [2/2] tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.fc42.x86_64 100% | 872.1 KiB/s | 540.7 KiB | 00m01s
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[2/2] Total 100% | 872.6 KiB/s | 710.3 KiB | 00m01s
Running transaction
[1/6] Verify package files 100% | 153.0 B/s | 2.0 B | 00m00s [2/6] Prepare transaction 100% | 8.0 B/s | 4.0 B | 00m00s [3/6] Installing tcl8-devel-1:8.6.15-10 100% | 26.1 MiB/s | 800.5 KiB | 00m00s [4/6] Installing tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.f 100% | 24.1 MiB/s | 1.0 MiB | 00m00s [5/6] Removing tk-devel-1:9.0.0-4.fc42. 100% | 47.6 KiB/s | 341.0 B | 00m00s [6/6] Removing tcl-devel-1:9.0.0-7.fc42 100% | 47.0 B/s | 47.0 B | 00m01s
Complete!
...
$ dnf list --installed tk*
Installed packages
tk.x86_64        1:9.0.0-4.fc42  fedora
tk8.x86_64       1:8.6.15-5.fc42 fedora
tk8-devel.x86_64 1:8.6.15-5.fc42 fedora
$ dnf list --installed tcl*
Installed packages
tcl.x86_64        1:9.0.0-7.fc42   fedora
tcl8.x86_64       1:8.6.15-10.fc42 fedora
tcl8-devel.x86_64 1:8.6.15-10.fc42 fedora

Cohabitation with the 9.0 runtimes seems OK, but not the devel packages.

Roger


-pd

On 16 Apr 2025, at 15.16, Roger Bivand via R-core <r-c...@r-project.org> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025, peter dalgaard wrote:


The Mac builds want stuff like below. I suspect you may need similar tcl and tk 
lines pointing to *Config.sh for Tcl/Tk 8.

With only tcl8-devel and tk8-devel installed, I also needed:

--with-tcl-config=/usr/lib64/tcl8.6/tclConfig.sh 
--with-tk-config=/usr/lib64/tkConfig.sh

to build and check.

Roger


(Tcl/Tk 9 popped up a bit too late in the development cycle for us to go 
investigating. Do you have any specifics about what has changed and causes 
problems?)

-pd

pd$ more config.site
CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/R/x86_64/include
LDFLAGS=-L/opt/R/x86_64/lib
with_tcl_config=/opt/R/x86_64/lib/tclConfig.sh
with_tk_config=/opt/R/x86_64/lib/tkConfig.sh


On 16 Apr 2025, at 11.11, Iñaki Ucar <iu...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 at 09:48, Roger Bivand via R-SIG-Fedora <
r-sig-fedora@r-project.org> wrote:

Building R 4.5.0 from source on Fedora 42 hits problems because 42 ships
with Tcl/Tk 9. tcl8-devel and tk8-devel are available and can be used, but
I haven't yet found a viable incantation yet. Neither R released nor devel
support Tcl/Tk 9 https://www.tcl-lang.com/software/tcltk/9.0.html.


Yes, you just need to install tcl8-devel and tk8-devel (and tell dnf to
remove version 9 if it's already there) and compile as usual.


Building against external BLAS is also not self-evident, so may need
guidance.


Building against FlexiBLAS is recommended. So you need to install
flexiblas-devel, then tell R via --with-blas=flexiblas --with-lapack.

See the configure part of our spec for a complete reference of what we do:

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/R/blob/rawhide/f/R.spec#_326

Iñaki



Any suggestions welcome!

Roger

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