On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Marc Schwartz wrote:
> Simon,
>
> Thanks so much for making this change!
>
> I downloaded the latest nightly and ran all tests (testInstalledBasic("both")
> and then testInstalledPackages() for examples, tests and vignettes for both
> base and recommended) locally here, which all pass. This is great!
>
> Will this change also show up in the next stable release on CRAN?
>
Yes, there is no difference in release builds and the nightly builds (which is
sort of the point of the nightlies so you can test pre-releases).
> For those who may still be following this thread, be sure that you run these
> tests in an R session using 'R --vanilla' from the command line (OSX Terminal
> app in Applications/Utilities), rather than using R.app or other GUIs (eg.
> RStudio, etc.). You may have modifications in your .Rprofile or elsewhere
> that may conflict with these tests and the GUI's may similarly alter the
> default environment. In addition, you should run these tests before
> installing any CRAN or other third party packages, which may also result in
> some conflicts with these tests.
>
> Simon, thanks again for this change and the incredibly fast turn around!
>
Sure, you're welcome.
Cheers,
Simon
> Best regards,
>
> Marc
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>
>> The current builds now contains tests. As Brian noted size is probably not
>> an issue anymore so it was the easiest to simply run install-tests in the
>> build.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Marc Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Simon,
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marc,
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Marc Schwartz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been building R from source for a number of years on Linux and for
>>>>> the past 3 years, on OSX. Since circa version 2.9.0 I believe, there have
>>>>> been functions available in the 'tools' package to run post-installation
>>>>> tests of the base and recommended packages. These parallel the post-build
>>>>> from source 'make check-all' functionality, but can be run within R. They
>>>>> run the help file examples, more extensive package specific tests as well
>>>>> as vignette code when present.
>>>>>
>>>>> When building from source, one can run 'make install-tests' to install
>>>>> the required files to run the more extensive package tests after the
>>>>> initial build, rather then just the examples in the help files.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Windows, there is an option during the GUI installation of the
>>>>> pre-built binary, to install these additional test files.
>>>>>
>>>>> When installing the pre-built binary for OSX, just to consider that path,
>>>>> I did not see an option to install these test files and I don't see any
>>>>> CLI functionality to replicate the installation of the test files that
>>>>> would be performed when building from source. A search of the R.framework
>>>>> tree did not yield any indication that the files are present, which would
>>>>> normally be in a 'tests' folder (eg. see
>>>>> https://svn.r-project.org/R/branches/R-2-14-branch/tests/).
>>>>>
>>>>> So, are these files not installed or made available when using the OSX
>>>>> binary or am I missing something?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, they are not available in the binary distribution. You can still use
>>>> make install-tests when compiling your own R, and since they are
>>>> arch-independent you can pick any architecture for that.
>>>>
>>>> It would be certainly possible to include the test files in the
>>>> distribution, but so far you are the first person asking about that, so it
>>>> doesn't seem prudent. However, it would be even easier to just add a
>>>> separate tar ball of tests to the http://R.reasearch.att.com site for
>>>> nightly builds if that would satisfy your needs.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply and confirmation. I can certainly continue, as I have
>>> done, to build R from source. In my case, I build 32 bit R, as I don't have
>>> a need for the additional memory address space provided by 64 bits, even
>>> though I have 8Gb on my MBP. It takes about 20 minutes to build and another
>>> 40 to run the full suite of tests.
>>>
>>> I was just doing some forward looking, considering alternatives to building
>>> from source and instead using the OSX binaries, both the stable release on
>>> CRAN and the patched versions that you kindly provide at the URL you list
>>> above. There are benefits to using the "official" binaries of course.
>>>
>>> Providing a tarball of the tests folder, matching svn revs, for the
>>> nightlies, would certainly be helpful. Presumably there would need to be a
>>> brief README file so that folks would know how and where to install them. I
>>> can assist with that, if you desire. The default location would be
>>> /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Resource/tests (eg. R.home("tests")).
>>>
>>> My broad perspective is that these tests are in effect, an integral part of
>>> validating an R installation, which is something that I do. While this has
>>> special meaning for folks involved in clinical trials (eg. see 6.3 in
>>> http://www.r-project.org/doc/R-FDA.pdf), it seems logical that this would
>>> have value to folks in other domains as well. It would make it easier for
>>> useRs to fully utilize the functions in 'tools' that R Core has taken the
>>> time and consideration to provide.
>>>
>>> Presumably, somewhere along the way around the time of 2.9.0, a decision
>>> was made to enable the test files to be optionally installed when using the
>>> Windows binary for ease of access, to enable that user base to be able to
>>> run the more extensive tests available. It would seem logical from a
>>> consistency perspective, to enable the OSX user base to have similar ease
>>> of access. I can't speak to what the various Linux packagers of R do, since
>>> that may vary across distributions due to differing packaging standards and
>>> it is possible that some may not even be aware of the tests functionality.
>>>
>>> Thus, if and when convenient, it would seem ideal to make these a standard
>>> part of the OSX binaries. The entire tests tree is only about 5 Mb, so it
>>> does not materially add to local data storage requirements.
>>>
>>> Thanks again Simon and let me know what I can do to assist. Feel free to
>>> contact me offlist.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I did not see anything relevant in the OSX FAQ for R and a search of the
>>>>> manuals and the archives yielded no joy. Presumably, one can just copy
>>>>> the files from the SVN repo above, being sure to match rev numbers during
>>>>> the check-out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any insights.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc Schwartz
>
>
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