Thank you Simon! Best,
David On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> wrote: > I can confirm that building with Xcode 5.1.1 doesn't exhibit the issue, > while using Xcode 6.1 does. So I'll switch the build process to force using > Xcode 5.1.1 instead of Xcode 6. It means that tomorrow's build should > hopefully result in a binary without that bug. > > Thanks, > Simon > > > > On Mar 13, 2015, at 12:58 PM, ALPEROVYCH Yan <alperov...@em-lyon.com> > wrote: > > > > Thank you Simon! I’ve just tried it with 3.1.3 and it works brilliantly! > > Yan > > > >> On Mar 13, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> > wrote: > >> > >> I have more evidence that points at Xcode. If you use the R.app GUI > that was compiled at the time of R 3.1.1 - available here: > >> > >> http://r.research.att.com/R-GUI-6783-3.1-mavericks-Release.dmg > >> > >> then all is well. As we discussed earlier, the code did not change at > all and the underlying R version is irrelevant, so the only piece that > changed since July last year when this was built was the Xcode version (and > thus the compilers used). It's not clear to me at all how the Xcode version > can affect NSTextView so badly, so this will require some more digging. In > the meantime, please use the above R.app binary. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Simon > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 6:39 PM, ALPEROVYCH Yan <alperov...@em-lyon.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Yes Simon, the 3.1.1 version works perfectly on Yosemite. This > behavior started from 3.1.2 and now is through in 3.1.3. > >>> Cheers, > >>> Yan > >>> > >>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:07 PM, David Dobolyi <dd...@virginia.edu > <mailto:dd...@virginia.edu>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I can confirm the problem does not occur in 3.1.1 and only started > with 3.1.2. The R.app GUI version in 3.1.1 was 6784 and in 3.1.2 was 6833, > so it seems like some regression was possible between builds within GUI > version 1.65? Build 6912 in 3.1.3 for Mavericks still exhibits the behavior > as Yan mentioned. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> David > >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Simon Urbanek < > simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:17 PM, ALPEROVYCH Yan <alperov...@em-lyon.com > <mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Simon, > >>>> > >>>> It may be a silly question but shouldn’t this Yosemite bug affect the > the 3.1.1 version as well? > >>>> > >>> > >>> Yes it should, since the code didn't change since 3.1.1. > >>> > >>> > >>>> I tried also to run R from the terminal and found no rendering issues > there, > >>> > >>> That has nothing to do with it - R is not using any Cocoa for text on > the command line - and Terminal is not likely to use NSTextView. > >>> > >>> > >>>> which points on the GUI - Yosemite related bug as you say. The R > 3.1.1 version that I have (and in which this rendering problem is not > present) runs with R.app GUI 1.65 (6784) x86_64-apple-darwin13.1.0. Does it > make sense / is it possible to run R 3.1.3 with this particular version of > GUI? > >>>> > >>> > >>> Are you saying the 3.1.1 binary didn't exhibit the behavior? That > would be odd - I'll check tomorrow when I'm back at a Yosemite machine. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Simon > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Yan > >>>> > >>>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Simon Urbanek < > simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:11 PM, David Dobolyi <dd...@virginia.edu > <mailto:dd...@virginia.edu>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hello Yan, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I was curious if the new R update would fix this as well, so thanks > for clarifying that it sadly does not. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> There were no code changes on our end. > >>>>> > >>>>> AFAICT this seems to be an issue in Apple's NSTextView Cocoa > implementation in Yosemite. Pretty much all the time is spent in > [NSTextView drawRect:] so Apple must have added some rather bad > inefficiency to drawing text area in Yosemite. As you fill the console, the > response time goes down as the text filed takes longer and longer to > render. You can also see it in the editor if you add many lines. When you > clear the console, it's responsible again since you don't have that many > lines in the text view. > >>>>> > >>>>> It seems like a serious bug in Yosemite. We don't control the > rendering - it's all in Apple's code, so I don't see immediately how we can > work around that bug. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> Simon > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Best, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> David > >>>>>> > >>>>>> PS. Simon, regardless of this bug, all of your hard work is very > much appreciated on an invaluable program! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:44 AM, ALPEROVYCH Yan < > alperov...@em-lyon.com<mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com>> wrote: > >>>>>> Hi Simon & David, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just for the record, I've tried the new 3.1.3 version (on the same > Yosemite machine) and the issue is still there. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yan Alperovych, Ph.D. > >>>>>> Associate Professor of Finance > >>>>>> EMLYON Business School > >>>>>> Tel.: +33 4 72 18 29 11<tel:%2B33%204%2072%2018%2029%2011> > >>>>>> E-mail: alperov...@em-lyon.com<mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com > ><mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com<mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com>> > >>>>>> LinkedIN: fr.linkedin.com/in/yanalperovych/< > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/yanalperovych/>< > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/yanalperovych/> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 7:28 PM, Simon Urbanek < > simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org><mailto: > simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you both, I'll look into this as soon as I get back from > travels. > >>>>>> Simon > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2015, at 4:23 PM, David Dobolyi <dd...@virginia.edu > <mailto:dd...@virginia.edu><mailto:dd...@virginia.edu<mailto: > dd...@virginia.edu>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Simon, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you for your reply. I am using the Mavericks build (running > on latest Yosemite), and have noticed this issue ever since I upgraded to > 3.1.2: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <Screen Shot 2015-02-23 at 4.12.35 PM.png> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> As an aside, I occasionally see errors in the GUI like this, and > they seem to come from other apps (e.g., Dropbox): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <Screen Shot 2015-02-23 at 4.13.09 PM.png> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> More importantly, I wrote Yan about a workaround, which involves > changing the max.print option from the default and limiting it to 1000. > This reliably stops R from slowing down over time (although how long, I > don't know). However, I can replicate the basic issue easily in R with the > following code: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> options(max.print=99999) > >>>>>> temp <- data.frame(1:100000, 1:100000) > >>>>>> temp > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This should eventually turn up on screen, and after try typing > anything in the console. Typing will be extremely delayed (e.g., type hello > and it will take several seconds for each letter to show up, one at a time). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It's even possible to crash the GUI if you print something in a > function called in a bootstrap, and then invoke a progress bar (e.g., the > pROC package). Progress will be steady and then suddenly R will lock up. > The moment you remove the print statement (which isn't actually printing > since the progress bar is present), the same call works perfectly. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'd love to have a real fix for this other than reducing max.print. > I'd dig into the source myself but can't commit the time at the moment. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> David > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Simon Urbanek < > simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org><mailto: > simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Are you using the Mavericks build of R? The SL build will do that, > because SL has no AppNap support - but then you can also disable AppNap > (see the corresponding threads here). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> S > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:43 AM, David Dobolyi <dd...@virginia.edu > <mailto:dd...@virginia.edu><mailto:dd...@virginia.edu<mailto: > dd...@virginia.edu>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Yan, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Are you still seeing this issue? It has been bothering me for > months now, > >>>>>> and I even found an instance where using progress_bar with > underlying > >>>>>> output to the GUI will cause so much slowdown as to crash R given > >>>>>> sufficient time (i.e., as hidden printed output piles > >>>>>> up in the background, the whole process slows to a crawl). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> David > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list > >>>>>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org<mailto:R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org><mailto: > R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org<mailto:R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org>> > >>>>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> David Dobolyi, M.A. > >>>>>> PhD Candidate > >>>>>> Cognitive Psychology > >>>>>> University of Virginia > >>>>>> 434-535-6073<tel:434-535-6073> > >>>>>> dd...@virginia.edu<mailto:dd...@virginia.edu><mailto: > dd...@virginia.edu<mailto:dd...@virginia.edu>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list > >>>>>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org<mailto:R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org><mailto: > R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org<mailto:R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org>> > >>>>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ---- > >>>>>> Ce message electronique et tous les fichiers attaches qu'il > contient sont confidentiels et destines exclusivement à l'usage de la > personne à laquelle ils sont adresses. 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