BTW - I should add that my memory is that there is at least one package for 
having R interact with Python that does an Anaconda install without you really 
knowing it.  Personally  I consider that bad practice.  It may be more 
convenient but can lead to unexpected trouble down the line just because of 
issues like this.  I have also seen R and Julia packages install things under 
the covers using Homebrew. I also consider this bad practice, again because it 
can lead to conflicts that leave the user bewildered . (Homebrew installs is 
its own directory, but you must be careful about setting Paths, and path 
priority).   This was particularly true when building from source.

I have submitted to CRAN and while it can be an utter pain in the butt,  I also 
appreciate what CRAN does for users of the package - they can install with 
reasonable assurance that the needed pieces will work together and there won't 
be any hidden gotchas, and that is worth a lot to users, at least in my 
experience.  I recently spent a week in hell with conda-forge where different 
packages used the same library (by name) but the recipes installed different 
versions,  and they kept on crashing each other.

So the tl;dr version is you likely installed a package for interop between R 
and Python,  say from source or Github,  and undercover it installed Anaconda.  
And as people have mentioned,  Anaconda has its own R environment,  which may 
or may not interfere with the standard R install. I check my .profile or 
.bash_profile after installs just in case.  If there is a setting I will need 
to use some software,  I move that to a separate file to be sourced when 
needed.  Since I have started doing that,  a lot of conflicts have disappeared.

HTH,

-Roy



> On Feb 27, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal 
> <roy.mendelss...@noaa.gov> wrote:
> 
> You are welcome  (my one good deed for the day - I guess I can go to bed 
> now!!!)  Anaconda is a great product, I use it  for my Python work,  they 
> actually ask you if you want them to modify the .profile, but people say yes 
> without realizing the implications.  First time I installed it, I said yes 
> but then looked at what was added to the file,  and realized that could cause 
> conflicts.  But since it is so easy to copy that part to another file and 
> then source it as needed,  you can keep things separate.  One of the main 
> things is anything in /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin that had similar things in 
> Anaconda were finding the Anaconda version.
> 
> -Roy
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 5:57 PM, robin hankin <hankin.ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Roy, thanks for this!  Your insight explains a great deal of my
>> problems.  And indeed I see a whole bunch of PATH additions which were
>> created by anaconda (these are in  .bash_profile, certainly not put
>> there by me!).
>> 
>> Just to clarify, I'm not using anaconda by choice, it seems to have
>> been installed inadvertently.
>> 
>> stop press:  configure works!  Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> hankin.ro...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> hankin.ro...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:47 PM Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal via
>> R-SIG-Mac <r-sig-mac@r-project.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anaconda adds code to the end of your ,.profile that can really play havoc 
>>> with paths in other programs/settings - and off I remember correctly it 
>>> puts the changes at the front of your $PATH..  I moved that code in 
>>> .profile to a separate file.  When I want anaconda,  I just source the 
>>> file.  Makes problems such as that described  much less likely.  If you are 
>>> using iTerm2 or the like,  then you can easily have a tab with the Anaconda 
>>> paths and the rest of the tabs the more "usual" paths.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> -Roy
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 5:32 PM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That's anaconda - they don't include paths which is why it breaks 
>>>> everything until you insert a manual override via DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH. See 
>>>> Robin's e-mail he is NOT using the system curl, but rather a custom 
>>>> version from anaconda ("/Users/rhankin/anaconda3/lib").
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Simon
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 04:28, peter dalgaard <pda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm, how did "@rpath" get in there? I don't see it anywhere in my build 
>>>>> and source dirs. Looks like something that should have been substituted 
>>>>> (by perl?) with the appropriate path.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is your library (...anaconda3/lib) correctly installed? I have, for the 
>>>>> system libcurl:
>>>>> 
>>>>> pd$ ls -l /usr/lib/*curl*
>>>>> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      15 Nov 14 14:36 /usr/lib/libcurl.3.dylib 
>>>>> -> libcurl.4.dylib
>>>>> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  854208 Nov 30 08:37 /usr/lib/libcurl.4.dylib
>>>>> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      15 Nov 14 14:36 /usr/lib/libcurl.dylib -> 
>>>>> libcurl.4.dylib
>>>>> 
>>>>> -pd
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2019, at 01:28 , robin hankin <hankin.ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks for this Peter, my config.log file looks like this:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> configure:42615: result: yes
>>>>>> configure:42629: checking if libcurl is version 7 and >= 7.22.0
>>>>>> configure:42658: gcc -o conftest  -g -O2
>>>>>> -I/Users/rhankin/anaconda3/include -I/usr/local/include
>>>>>> -I/usr/local/include  -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c
>>>>>> -L/Users/rhankin/anaconda3/lib -lcurl -lssh2 -lssh2 -lssl -lcrypto
>>>>>> -lssl -lcrypto -lgssapi_krb5 -lresolv -lz -L/usr\
>>>>>> /local/lib -lpcre2-8 -lpcre -llzma -lbz2 -lz -licucore -ldl -lm  -liconv 
>>>>>> >&5
>>>>>> configure:42658: $? = 0
>>>>>> configure:42658: ./conftest
>>>>>> dyld: Library not loaded: @rpath/libcurl.4.dylib
>>>>>> Referenced from: /Users/rhankin/Downloads/R-devel/./conftest
>>>>>> Reason: image not found
>>>>>> ./configure: line 2254: 73408 Abort trap: 6           
>>>>>> ./conftest$ac_exeext
>>>>>> configure:42658: $? = 134
>>>>>> configure: program exited with status 134
>>>>>> configure: failed program was:
>>>>>> | /* confdefs.h */
>>>>>> | #define PACKAGE_NAME "R"
>>>>>> | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "R"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hankin.ro...@gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hankin.ro...@gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:41 AM peter dalgaard <pda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It doesn't usually happen on 10.13.6... Best guess is that somehow you 
>>>>>>> are picking up an older library (e.g. in /usr/local/lib) even if you 
>>>>>>> are using curl-config from a newer version.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The detective work needed could take off from config.log, region around 
>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> configure:39937: checking if libcurl is version 7 and >= 7.22.0
>>>>>>> configure:39966: gcc -arch x86_64 -o conftest -g -O2   
>>>>>>> -I/usr/local/include  -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lcurl -lpcre -llzma 
>>>>>>> -lbz2 -lz -licucore -lm  -liconv >&5
>>>>>>> configure:39966: $? = 0
>>>>>>> configure:39966: ./conftest
>>>>>>> configure:39966: $? = 0
>>>>>>> configure:39976: result: yes
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's for a succesful build, a failed one will usually give more info 
>>>>>>> including the failing program code.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -pd
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 24 Feb 2019, at 22:45 , robin hankin <hankin.ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,  macos 10.13.6, trying to compile 3.6.0, revision 76152.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ./configure
>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> checking for curl-config... /Users/rhankin/anaconda3/bin/curl-config
>>>>>>>> checking libcurl version ... 7.63.0
>>>>>>>> checking curl/curl.h usability... yes
>>>>>>>> checking curl/curl.h presence... yes
>>>>>>>> checking for curl/curl.h... yes
>>>>>>>> checking if libcurl is version 7 and >= 7.22.0... no
>>>>>>>> configure: error: libcurl >= 7.22.0 library and headers are required
>>>>>>>> with support for https
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> if we have libcurl 7.63, as it says in the output, why the error?  How
>>>>>>>> to proceed?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> hankin.ro...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> 
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