all the numbers are bigger except for the 1% progress bar which hasn't moved.
I have a genius appt tomorrow.  will let you know what happened after it 
happens.

> On Jun 06, 2022, at 20:41, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> wrote:
> 
> Rich,
> 
> it looks like the same problem, you have some infinite loop in your fonts. No 
> idea how that can happen, possibly recursive symlink in your font directory?
> 
> Cheers.
> Simon
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2022, at 2:12 AM, Richard M. Heiberger <r...@temple.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> i think i will bring it to apple this afternoon.
>> what font does the default graphics device use?
>> 
>> this morning the time is up to 4:26.17 and the bar is still at 1%.
>> 
>> From: Ken Beath <k...@kjbeath.com.au>
>> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 1:44:58 AM
>> To: Richard M. Heiberger <r...@temple.edu>
>> Cc: Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org>; r-sig-mac R 
>> <r-sig-mac@r-project.org>
>> Subject: [External] Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External] Xquartz started crashing today
>> 
>> Less than 30 seconds on my iMac, so something is very wrong with your fonts 
>> or file system.
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>>> On 6 Jun 2022, at 2:34 pm, Richard M. Heiberger <r...@temple.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am in the middle of validating fonts. The machine has been running for 
>>> about 12 hours, the Activity Monitor CPU
>>> time for the Font Book app is currently at 2:35.15. It keeps going up but 
>>> very slowly.
>>> The progress bar at the bottom of the Font Validation window has been stuck 
>>> at about 1% from when it started and hasn't moved.
>>> How long is this task supposed to take?
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 04, 2022, at 00:49, Richard M. Heiberger <r...@temple.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Simon,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for reading this.
>>>> 
>>>> I sent what Apple gave me. I had not previously tried reading one of these.
>>>> So should I be so lucky in the future, then all you need is everything 
>>>> between
>>>> Process: R [
>>>> and the next occurence of
>>>> Process: 
>>>> ?
>>>> 
>>>> and maybe also the up front stuff before the Process: information.
>>>> 
>>>> I already rebooted, installed a new R, and a new Xquartz. Those didn't 
>>>> help.
>>>> Reinstalling R is probably irrelevant because the problem occurred first 
>>>> in 4.1-arm64,
>>>> which is why I upgraded to 4.2-arm64. And it was still there.
>>>> 
>>>> This suggests that the problem is with the Fonts. I have never touched 
>>>> them (on purpose).
>>>> I will learn a little in the next frew days and see what can be done with 
>>>> validation.
>>>> I will let you know. But what made the fonts (if that is indeed the 
>>>> problem) go invalid.
>>>> I can't think of anything I did that could be relevant.
>>>> 
>>>> Rich
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 03, 2022, at 23:32, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rich,
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks. You sent a log of all processes on your machine, just the R 
>>>>> report would have been fine (which is only 18k).
>>>>> 
>>>>> The hang occurs in ATSFontFindFromName() where the system is looking for 
>>>>> fonts, so you could try: a) reboot he machine, b) run Font Book (in 
>>>>> Applications), c) select all fonts (<Cmd><A>) d) in the menu select File 
>>>>> -> Validate Fonts e) select any invalid fonts and remove them f) reboot
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the problem persists try re-installing the R 4.2.0 release if it makes 
>>>>> any difference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Simon
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 4, 2022, at 3:10 AM, Richard M. Heiberger <r...@temple.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cover letter for crash report, that also got stopped for being part of a 
>>>>>> too large email,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am doing nothing different that I know of.
>>>>>> I start R within emacs using ESS with M-x R
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> R version 4.2.0 Patched (2022-06-02 r82444) -- "Vigorous Calisthenics"
>>>>>> Copyright (C) 2022 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing
>>>>>> Platform: aarch64-apple-darwin20 (64-bit)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> R is free software and comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
>>>>>> You are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.
>>>>>> Type 'license()' or 'licence()' for distribution details.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Natural language support but running in an English locale
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> R is a collaborative project with many contributors.
>>>>>> Type 'contributors()' for more information and
>>>>>> 'citation()' on how to cite R or R packages in publications.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Type 'demo()' for some demos, 'help()' for on-line help, or
>>>>>> 'help.start()' for an HTML browser interface to help.
>>>>>> Type 'q()' to quit R.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> setwd('/Users/rmh/Rwd2/')
>>>>>>> plot(1:10)
>>>>>>> C-c C-c
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ## it just sits there, completely frozen and ignores C-c C-c
>>>>>> ## then I Force Quit it from the Activity Monitor
>>>>>> Process R terminated: 15 at Thu Jun 2 22:39:39 2022
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you want the crash report that the Mac offers to send to Apple?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> I just finished updating all my packages.
>>>>>> So now the crash generation and report.
>>>>>> I entered
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> plot(1:10)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The rotating beachball appeared. No graph, C-c C-c has no effect..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Force Quit from Activity Monitor and CrashReport attached:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just for fun, I started R.app and entered plot(1:10)
>>>>>> Same freeze and I Force Quit it again.
>>>>>> I am not bothering with the Crash Report unless you tell me you need it 
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 02, 2022, at 23:02, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regular R does not use X11 by default, so what exactly are you doing? 
>>>>>>> You'll have to provide more details, the exact way you run R, code to 
>>>>>>> reproduce and where it hangs, ideally with a crash report (which macOS 
>>>>>>> creates on hangs as well).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 3/06/2022, at 2:51 PM, Richard M. Heiberger <r...@temple.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> it makes R unresponsive according to the activity monitor.
>>>>>>>> The only repair I have found is to ForceQuit R from the Activity 
>>>>>>>> Monitor, and start fresh R session.
>>>>>>>> I downloaded a fresh copy of XQuartz-2.8.1.dmg and have the same 
>>>>>>>> negative results.
>>>>>>>> I downloaded a fresh R from 
>>>>>>>> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmac.r-project.org%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crmh%40temple.edu%7Cba5d30f1cc9b479ebf7e08da481e755d%7C716e81efb52244738e3110bd02ccf6e5%7C0%7C0%7C637901592942888593%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=e2ElYPKeUg%2BWkjWsqIKw0dw4moPBtiWrb%2FqNZngRJZw%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>>>>>> R version 4.2.0 Patched (2022-06-02 r82444) -- "Vigorous Calisthenics"
>>>>>>>> Copyright (C) 2022 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing
>>>>>>>> Platform: aarch64-apple-darwin20 (64-bit)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>> _ 
>>>>>>>> platform aarch64-apple-darwin20 
>>>>>>>> arch aarch64 
>>>>>>>> os darwin20 
>>>>>>>> system aarch64, darwin20 
>>>>>>>> status Patched 
>>>>>>>> major 4 
>>>>>>>> minor 2.0 
>>>>>>>> year 2022 
>>>>>>>> month 06 
>>>>>>>> day 02 
>>>>>>>> svn rev 82444 
>>>>>>>> language R 
>>>>>>>> version.string R version 4.2.0 Patched (2022-06-02 r82444)
>>>>>>>> nickname Vigorous Calisthenics 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have MacOS 12.3 Monterey
>>>>>>>> MacBook Air (M1,2020)
>>>>>>>> Chip Apple M1
>>>>>>>> memory 16GB
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The pdf() device works so I I can work, but casually plotting to the 
>>>>>>>> screen without explicitly
>>>>>>>> opening pdf() is not possible.
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