On 6/8/22 18:39, John Fox wrote:


On 2022-06-08 12:36 p.m., John Fox wrote:
Dear Thomas,

Thanks for this additional information.

I added some of my own defensive code to the development version of the Rcmdr package, to set the "help_type" option to "text" for macOS. I'll

I should have added that help_type is set to "text" for R version 4.2.0 only!

I think it is a coincidence that this was seen in R 4.2.0. The http server's handler has a safeguard against re-entrant execution since 59338 (year 2012). As that safeguard was needed at that time for clients connecting in rapid sequence, the problem with the live-lock with tcltk event loop could have been triggered already then, but probably nobody ran into this with tcltk package loaded. PR#17773 shows that attempts for re-entrant/concurrent handling of http requests were seen in R 4.0.0 with the HTML help.

Best
Tomas


modify that to all non-Windows platforms, and also include this in the CRAN version of the package.

I currently test on macOS and Windows systems but when I have a chance will get a Linux system working as well.

Best,
  John

On 2022-06-08 12:16 p.m., Tomas Kalibera wrote:
For reference, this problem is not macOS specific, it also exists on Linux (but not on Windows which use a different code path) and the core problem is how to prevent re-entrant execution of R event handlers when run from the R/tcltk event loop, itself running from an R event handler.

R-patched now contains a defensive work-around from Simon.

We have added a more efficient and cleaner fix to R-devel, but there is some risk of breakage: this form is "the documented way" but didn't work on some systems ~22 years ago. So it would be great if people using Tcl/Tk in R on Unix, and particularly those with rarely used window managers, could test their applications or the tcltk package demos and report any issues well before the next release.

Thanks
Tomas

On 5/30/22 01:27, John Fox wrote:
Dear Simon,

Thank you for addressing this problem so promptly.

Best,
 John

On 2022-05-29 6:51 p.m., Simon Urbanek wrote:
Actually, I take back the reference to the commit - the deadlock is true, and removing the line is a work-around, but r78421 was not necessarily the regression. The issue seems to be caused by a combination of Tcl/Tk and KaTeX (the latter causes the browser to issue multiple parallel http-requests and the former causes the deadlock in its event loop) which has not been there in earlier R versions.

Cheers,
Simon


On 30/05/2022, at 10:09 AM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> wrote:

John,

thanks, this is a regression caused by r78421 (deadlock when TclTk's event loop is called in http processing). Removing L875 in src/modules/internet/Rhttpd.c restores the previous behavior, but the underlying problem is more complex and will require more investigation.

Cheers,
Simon


On 29/05/2022, at 5:36 AM, John Fox <j...@mcmaster.ca> wrote:

Dear R-sig-mac list members,

I've discovered that loading the tcltk package apparently causes R 4.2.0 (including the current patched version) to hang on an M1 Mac.

Try, e.g.,

library("tcltk")
help("lm")

My session info:

------- snip -------

sessionInfo()
R version 4.2.0 Patched (2022-05-28 r82413)
Platform: aarch64-apple-darwin20 (64-bit)
Running under: macOS Monterey 12.3.1

Matrix products: default
BLAS: /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.2-arm64/Resources/lib/libRblas.0.dylib LAPACK: /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.2-arm64/Resources/lib/libRlapack.dylib

locale:
[1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8

attached base packages:
[1] tcltk     stats     graphics  grDevices utils datasets  methods
[8] base

loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
[1] compiler_4.2.0

------- snip -------

Some additional details: The problem occurs both in the R macOS console and, if options(help_type="html"), when R is run in a terminal window on macOS, but not when options(help_type="text"). The former is the default in the Mac R console, the latter when R is run in a terminal.

The problem is apparently new in R 4.2.0 -- it doesn't, e.g., occur in R 4.1.3. My apologies for not turning it up earlier.

I discovered the problem when accessing help in the Rcmdr GUI, which uses tcltk, caused R to hang.

Has anyone else encountered this problem?

Best,
John
--
John Fox, Professor Emeritus
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
web: https://socialsciences.mcmaster.ca/jfox/

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