I just tried reinstalling R on a M1 with Sonoma but the problem persists. BW
F Federico Calboli Erityisasiantuntija, tutkimusrahoitus Palveluryhmät Luonnonvarakeskus I was having problems with Rstudio after upgrading to Sonoma. I removed and reinstalled R and the problems seem to disappear. Manuel El mar, 3 oct 2023 a las 12:08, Brandon Hurr (<[email protected]>) escribió: > I can confirm that the behavior is the same on an Intel machine > freshly upgraded to Sonoma with R 4.3.0 R.app GUI 1.79 (8238) > aarch64-apple-darwin20 > And it has been going on my M2 MBP R4.3.1 R.app GUI 1.79 (8238) > aarch64-apple-darwin20 > > Does the team need any debug outputs or similar to understand the > issue? Happy to send what's needed. Please advise. > > HTH, > Brandon > > On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 12:35 PM John Helly via R-SIG-Mac > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Aloha. > > > > I've confirmed it on the M-chip but afraid to test on my Intel. I have > > had a problem for years now, that seems related and limited to R.app. > > RStudio does not have the problem: which is why I stopped using R.app. > > > > On multiple machines, all architectures, R.app spontaneously switches > > from editor windows to console and the switching of focus causes code to > > get damaged or destroyed unwittingly. > > > > RStudio has its own problems but this problem has never been solved (for > > me) and I haven't been able to confirm it with others so no known > > cause. It may be related to this current problem since it seems to be > > in the same general domain. > > > > J. > > > > On 10/3/23 06:27, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > > > I am wondering if this is just an issue on M1/2 chips or does it also > affect Intel? > > > > > > I usually hold off upgrading until the first or second patch, but I > feel I should warn students in my class. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > >> On Oct 3, 2023, at 12:14 PM, William R Revelle < > [email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> [You don't often get email from [email protected]. Learn why > this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] > > >> > > >> It turns out that is not just the graphics window that the focus > problem, it is all windows. That is, opening the help window takes focus > away from the console and help needs to be closed before the console window > will be active. The install package window has the same problem. > > >> > > >> For each case, closing the extra window restores console functioning. > > >> > > >> I report this just so Simon can see the report. > > >> > > >> I remain in awe of the work of Simon in getting the Mac version to > work so well. > > >> > > >> I am running > > >> > > >> R version 4.3.1 Patched (2023-09-30 r85239) > > >> Platform: aarch64-apple-darwin20 (64-bit) > > >> Running under: macOS Sonoma 14.0 > > >> > > >> Bill > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Oct 1, 2023, at 12:13 PM, Sparapani, Rodney <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I hear you! It is not just R either. I know you mentioned R-studio. > > >>> But there are lots of other things R-related like emacs. I had the > > >>> hardest time with emacs for Catalina and Big sur. I’m not sure > > >>> but I think Monterrey was better. However, all of those issues > > >>> finally went away with Ventura. This makes me extremely hesitant > for Sonoma > > >>> since I am finally happy now. So long story short: Apple gets there, > > >>> but it can take years sometimes. The new hardware like ARM (and > > >>> the titanium iPhone!) look so cool it can be very tempting to go > > >>> bleeding-edge. I learned my lesson when Ventura first came out. > > >>> R was not ready and neither were lots of tools that we use here > > >>> at work. Good luck > > >>> -- > > >>> Rodney Sparapani, Associate Professor of Biostatistics, He/Him/His > > >>> Vice President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical > Association > > >>> Institute for Health and Equity, Division of Biostatistics > > >>> Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus > > >>> From: William Revelle <[email protected]> > > >>> Date: Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 12:01 PM > > >>> To: Sparapani, Rodney <[email protected]>, [email protected] < > [email protected]> > > >>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R 4.3.1 fails on Mac OS X Sonoma > > >>> ATTENTION: This email originated from a sender outside of MCW. Use > caution when clicking on links or opening attachments. > > >>> ________________________________ > > >>> > > >>> Rodney, > > >>> > > >>> Thanks for your quick reply. > > >>> > > >>> It turns out this is just a problem with the base R for Mac > graphics window (which is to say, the version I like). I can still use > R-studio (which I don’t like as much). > > >>> > > >>> I can wait patiently for a patch to the Mac version while using > R-Studio. > > >>> > > >>> That way I don’t have to go through the hassle of trying to > reinstall 13.x and dumping 14.0. > > >>> > > >>> Bill > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> On Oct 1, 2023, at 11:22 AM, Sparapani, Rodney <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Hi Bill: > > >>>> Well, I am usually pretty cautious about this. I don’t move to the > > >>>> next release until R is ready. For Ventura, it took quite awhile > > >>>> before that happened. Sorry > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Rodney Sparapani, Associate Professor of Biostatistics, He/Him/His > > >>>> Vice President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical > Association > > >>>> Institute for Health and Equity, Division of Biostatistics > > >>>> Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus > > >>>> From: R-SIG-Mac <[email protected]> on behalf of > William Revelle <[email protected]> > > >>>> Date: Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 11:19 AM > > >>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > >>>> Subject: [R-SIG-Mac] R 4.3.1 fails on Mac OS 1 > > >>>> ATTENTION: This email originated from a sender outside of MCW. Use > caution when clicking on links or opening attachments. > > >>>> ________________________________ > > >>>> > > >>>> Dear Mac users of R and developers. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> I recently updated to the Sonoma OS for Mac (14.0) and it has a > serious problem for graphics. > > >>>> > > >>>> plot(1:10) creates a graphic window but I can not switch back to > the console window using either command-1 or the mouse. > > >>>> > > >>>> Anybody else having this problem? Any suggestions for a patch? > > >>>> > > >>>> I am running a MacBook Pro with M1 Max. > > >>>> > > >>>> Bill > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> (resent because of bad mail address) > > >>>> William Revelle personality-project.org/revelle.html > > >>>> Professor personality-project.org > > >>>> Department of Psychology > 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