How about 'r-sig-edu' for Education - should be obvious enough to faculty, teaching staff, etc., and 'r-sig-novice' (or -tutor) which would probably 'jump out' as the obvious choice to a new user trying to choose which list to subscribe and post to...
Monte On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Jeff Laux <[email protected]> wrote: > I think the kinds of confusions that prompted this discussion are normal, > and may not be something to fret over. That said, I support the idea of > another appropriate SIG. However, r-sig-teaching & r-sig-tutor are going to > elicit more of these same kinds of confusions. We should use > r-sig-forstatisticseducation and r-sig-fornovices, instead. > > > > On 1/18/2013 11:08 AM, Christopher W. Ryan wrote: >> >> I'd participate actively in an "R-tutor" mailing list. >> >> --Chris >> >> Christopher W. Ryan, MD, MS >> SUNY Upstate Medical University Clinical Campus at Binghamton >> 425 Robinson Street, Binghamton, NY 13904 >> cryanatbinghamtondotedu >> >> "Once we recognize that we do not err out of laziness, stupidity, or >> evil intent, we can liberate ourselves from the impossible burden of >> trying to be permanently right. We can take seriously the proposition >> that we could be in error, without deeming ourselves idiotic or >> unworthy." [Karen Schulz, in Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of >> Error] >> >> >> R. Michael Weylandt wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Monte Milanuk <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Bob, >>>> >>>> I'm one of those who follow the list mainly out of curiosity, not >>>> because I have any connection with teaching stats. My goal was to >>>> keep an eye out for some of the occasional posts where people post >>>> useful links or material that they use in teaching... but I understand >>>> the frustration with the frequent off-topic requests for help learning >>>> R. >>>> >>>> I don't know if yet another mailing list would be worth considering... >>>> but for comparison, in the Python world there is a SIG for Education, >>>> very similar to this one... and there is a SIG/mailing list called >>>> 'python-tutor', specifically for people asking beginner type >>>> questions, or who maybe don't want to brave the 'main' list and its >>>> denizens just yet because they still need/want some hand-holding. >>>> There is very little off-topic discussion on the Edu list, and >>>> neophytes have a kiddie pool that they feel welcome in. >>>> >>>> I know the R community seems to kind of enjoy the occasional >>>> snarkiness on the main list by certain posters, and I've certainly >>>> been around the 'Net long enough to have developed a thick enough skin >>>> myself, but for new users it may be a bit intimidating. Maybe an >>>> 'R-Novice' or 'R-Tutor' list would open up an intermediate ground for >>>> beginners and reduce the 'pollution' of the R-Teaching list? >>>> >>> It's a topic that's been discussed many times before on R-help, with >>> the usual outcome being some feeling that it would lower the quality >>> of responses that newbies get. I'm not sure it's an argument I buy, >>> but if you want to raise the topic again, I can certainly promise to >>> be active (enough) on R-Tutor. >>> >>> There might also be some value in thinking of an R-Statistics list >>> (though under a much better name) where statistical questions are fair >>> game -- it's always seemed odd to me that data munging is a fair topic >>> on the various R lists, while data analysis isn't. >>> >>> Just throwing it out there, >>> >>> MW >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> [email protected] mailing list >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-teaching >> >> _______________________________________________ >> [email protected] mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-teaching >> > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-teaching _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-teaching
