Le 09.06.2006 16:15, Gabor Grothendieck a écrit :
> I find that your tips page is easier to read
> than the automatically generated one although
> that could likely be solved ultimately be improvements
> to the script.
>
> I do find all the various colours somewhat distracting
> and hard to read on the generated web page. (this is
> also true of the rest of the wiki too)
>
>
You sould define a user style sheet like that one (this is firefox, I
don't know how to do it in other browsers)
@-moz-document url-prefix("http://wiki.r-project.org";){
*{color:black !important;}
}
> I suggest you maintain your page until the script
> gets to the point where its comparable in legibility
> to your hand done one.
>
> On 6/9/06, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I've just run the alltips program and did generate a big html file.
>>
>> http://pj.freefaculty.org/R/alltips.html
>>
>> That piece of programming is very amazing to me. How in the heck can a
>> stat program on my laptop cobble together a web page? If R had a
>> function to write a file onto a remote site , this could be completely
>> automated.
>>
>> I could post something like that on a regular basis. That certainly
>> proves it is possible.
>>
>> So far, I've noticed some problems.
>>
>> 1. Links inside alltips.html don't work. They point internally to
>> places in the Wiki, not to anchors in alltips itself.
>>
>> 2. Is there a way to have numbers generated for these tips? So that
>> we can refer to them by number?
>>
>> 3. The tips appear without logical sequencing in alltips.html. I
>> wish there were a way to designate the placement. I don't expect
>> there is a Wiki solution for that, however.
>>
>>
>> In the next week, I will try to learn how to input stuff into the WIki
>> and I'll also try to make a list of things in Rtips that I think are
>> most valuable.
>>
>> Honestly, some of the tips I have are pretty old or out of date.
>>
>>
>> PJ
>>
>> On 6/9/06, Philippe Grosjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> First, I would like to answer to Paul Johnson. The decision to separate
>>> Rtips into sections and have one page per tip is motivated both by
>>> technical reasons (already discussed, a wiki is more efficient with
>>> separate small pages than a big one), and for practical reasons. When
>>> Rtips remains rather small and managed by one people, like your current
>>> version of it, it is much easier to handle in one big page. Now, imagine
>>> that the R Wiki tips section gains popularity and that (just imagine!)
>>> hundreds of authors write thousands of tips. How would you manage a
>>> single web page containing these thousands of tips? How do you find tips
>>> related to, say, handling of data frames, in this big page? How will
>>> someone with a low-speed Internet connexion get the last tip that he is
>>> interested in, from this long page (he has to download all the rest first)?
>>>
>>> I think that both presentations (several little page versus a single
>>> large one) have pros and cons. The suggestion to make a digest of the
>>> tips in the R Wiki, as an alternate presentation, makes much sense in
>>> this context. Romain François proposed a script for that. A good
>>> starting basis to automate the creation of that "Rtips digest". Would
>>> you be happy with this solution?
>>>
>>> Regarding the progress made with the R Wiki. This was also a very busy
>>> time for me. I did my best to finish the Wiki engine for the UseR!2006
>>> workshop. I still have a couple of aspects to finalize (presentation
>>> with the sidebar, the Rdconv --wiki is *almost* done, plus a couple of
>>> other details).
>>>
>>> Anyway, whatever where we are now, we should officially launch the R
>>> Wiki next week at the UseR!2006 workshop. A presentation is planned on
>>> thursday (see
>>> http://www.r-project.org/useR-2006/Abstracts/Grosjean.pdf). It would be
>>> also an occasion to recruit other volunteers to help in migrating
>>> material to the Wiki. I think that the priority is to write some initial
>>> material for the empty sections, like "getting-started:what-is-r",
>>> "getting-started:faq" (this is rather easy: it is the wiki version of
>>> the various official FAQ documents, but with the possibility to append
>>> comments for the wiki users), "getting-started:case-studies",
>>> "guides:books". Another priority is to migrate material from the first R
>>> Wiki by Detlef Steuer.
>>>
>>> Thank you to all wiki authors or "migrators". The progress is slower
>>> than expected, but we have already achieved a pretty good result, I think.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Philippe
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>>> Nick Drew wrote:
>>>
>>>> Like others, I've been busy and not made the kind of progress
>>>> of converting Rtips to the R Wiki that I've wanted to. I had hoped to have
>>>> section 1 (Data input/output) done by now, but there is still
>>>> 1.5 - 1.7 left on that section.
>>>>
>>>> I'm willing to continue to help with this. I will finish section 1
>>>> by the end of next week. However, I don't see me making
>>>> much progress during our warm summer months here in Oregon.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we could generate a list of which sections of
>>>> Rtips have been converted. Then others would know where to
>>>> continue if they desire.
>>>>
>>>> ~Nick
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ben Bolker
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:02 AM
>>>> To: Paul Johnson
>>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [R-wiki] R Wiki: What do you want me to do now about tips?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Having seen no answer thus far:
>>>>
>>>> Parts but not all of Rtips have been migrated to the R wiki
>>>> (I'd make a wild guess of about 30-50%.) My personal preference
>>>> would be migration. Apparently DocuWiki doesn't have a "single
>>>> page" view, but there was some discussion on the list about how
>>>> to run a script etc. to take a snapshot -- see the April archives
>>>> and Romain Francois' code at
>>>> http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=tips:misc:alltips .
>>>> If you were willing (once the migration is complete) to run
>>>> this as a script on your server (say daily) and post the results ...
>>>>
>>>> Work on the Wiki has slowed down once again (perhaps inevitable
>>>> since so many people are busy). I'd really like to encourage
>>>> list-readers to keep at it -- would people be willing to make
>>>> some kind of nominal deadline for at least getting the rest
>>>> of R-tips moved over/volunteer for sections?
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>> Ben Bolker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have this gmail account but can't manage it very well. Too many
>>>>> messages, too many lists, blah, blah...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I just noticed several messages in this list debating the
>>>>> question of whether I should maintain Rtips or try to migrate the rest
>>>>> of the content into the R Wiki. What is that status now?
>>>>>
>>>>> My opinion is that some of the things in Rtips are quite seriously
>>>>> useful, especially "how to save graphs" and "use predict with
>>>>> regression" but many of the things are tidbits that I accumulated for
>>>>> one use and never used again.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do think it is good if users can just view all the tips on a single
>>>>> page, as some readers suggested. The one who said I should keep
>>>>> separate content on Rtips seemed to think the big drawback of the Wiki
>>>>> was the sub-compartmentlization of information into little pages, and
>>>>> there is some truth in that. But I've seen other Wiki programs that
>>>>> could just display all content in a single www post.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry I've not been paying attention, but now it is summer and I
>>>>> have some time while preparing to teach stats again in the fall, and
>>>>> so if you (all) tell me what needs to be done, I will do it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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