OK, I agree here. But, should we, beside pointing to help(factor), cross-reference all guides and tips on the same topic?
Gregor -----Original Message----- From: Martin Maechler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 2006-08-07 10:08 To: Gorjanc Gregor Cc: Philippe Grosjean; Ben Bolker; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [R-wiki] Factor pages >>>>> "Gorjanc" == Gorjanc Gregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> on Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:41:19 +0200 writes: Gorjanc> Hi, >> No. Vincent Zoonekynd's Statistics with R is a separate guide by itself >> (and I hope to have more documents like this, translated into the Wiki). >> Apart from its translation into Wiki format (and perhaps, refreshment of >> the content to work with latest R version), this is not to be >> edited/merged with the rest. >> >> The tips section starts with Paul Johnson's tips, but is dedicated to be >> a collection of many more tips, contributed by the Wiki users. >> >> Guides and Tips are very different sections. However, it is possible to >> got some redundancy... a little bit like you have certainly redundancy >> in the various contributed packages and documents on CRAN, but you >> cannot force their authors for more coherence. Gorjanc> I agree that guides and tips are different, but it Gorjanc> would be great to go for one definite guide and Gorjanc> link tips to it? I just do not see the benefit of Gorjanc> having a multiple of a bit different Gorjanc> guides. Imagine several pages on the same topic in Gorjanc> wikipedia. The same applies with CRAN, but I think Gorjanc> that we should try to have one general Gorjanc> tool/guide/tip for one task/issue, ... or am I Gorjanc> wrong? I think you are partly right and partly wrong. You are right the "reference" or "definition" information should be in one place only if possible --- within a given "set", see wikipedia. In our context note that I think the "definition" / "reference" is typically the help pages (from the latest version of R) --- and fortunately Philippe has made the incorporation of these into the Wiki a big priority for the Wiki [[though there's still the bug that not all help page hyper links work as they should ]]. However there are many books covering the same topic, even many encyclopedia. Typically these books are for different audiences; if they are very thorough books they all refer to the original "definition". Hence, in our case, all "good" R-Wiki articles on 'factor' should link to the R-Wiki-version of help(factor) . In our case here, such guides are ``books for different audiences''; and BTW even tips *can* (and should if I remember Philippe's original intentions with the Wiki correctly) be aimed at different audiences. So there's definitely room for different guides explaining 'factor's in R -- and to reiterate the point -- if they should be improved, they should point the wikified help(factor) page. Martin _______________________________________________ R-sig-wiki mailing list [email protected] https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-wiki
