sorry, meant to link to Vonda McIntyre's "Little Faces":
http://freesf.blogspot.com/2008/06/little-faces-vonda-n-mcintyre.html

On 2008-09-12, Eric Scoles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Sure, you have to hang yourself out there when you write near-future SF,
> and maybe you're wrong. That doesn't bother me so much, because I don't
> think it's about being "right" or "wrong" as a matter of prediction. You
> have to get things right with regard to narrative logic and worldbuilding
> logic. It may mean you end up with an obsolete vision. But people still read
> and enjoy "Red Star, Winter Orbit" even though it's totally obsolete.
> (hey, the Soviet Union collapsed! whaddya know!)
>
> I'm really down on far-future SF these days, myself. Most of it seems kind
> of devoid of imagination. I mean, will we really be drinking coffee 250
> years from now? We weren't 300 years *ago*. Will we still put on clothes
> and feed and mate and evacuate our bowels in the same way in space ships 500
> light years or 500 solar years distant? Given just recent advances in
> genetics and nanotech, I find it difficult to believe. Of course
> you have to find familiar things for people to relate to, so you can say
> "well, the ship's captain is going to share a glass of scotch with his first
> officer" (which assumes the preservation without replacement of scotch,
> human control of ships, 19th-21st century shipboard chains of command, a
> fascination with imbibing toxins for entertainment, and so on), but I guess
> for me it kind of strips away the pretense at extrapolation and turns it
> into fantasy. That is, it's not believably different enough, for me.
>
> I'm much more interested in far future SF visions that are really very
> different from the present. Vonda McIntire's "Little Faces" is an example of
> what gets me jazzed: A geniunely different vision of a human future, not
> something that gives us comfortable lifelines into our present. (I have
> quibbles with her cavalier treatment of long time passages, but that's a
> minor point.)
>
> Sometimes even when I think the vision isn't far out enough, the strength
> of the project, so to speak, wins me over. *The Forever War* was like this
> for me. I didn't think there was nearly enough change going on back home
> while the protagonist is zooming around at relativistic speeds. But it
> worked for me because the whole thing was a pretty naked metaphor for
> Haldeman's experiences as a Vietnam veteran.
>
> OK, I'll come out and say it: Most far-future SF is, in my analysis, more
> Fantasy than SF. I think SF is really properly a sub-division of Fantasy,
> anyway, which is why as a more or less middle-aged guy I'm now liking the
> term "speculative fiction" whereas when I was a kid I thought it was a wimpy
> term. (I was all about aggressively claiming my geekhood.) "Fantasy" isn't a
> good over-arching label because it has too many established connotations,
> even though I think it's accurately descriptive if you strip those away.
> Which we can't do, as a practical matter, so nowadays I'm happy to settle
> for "speculative fiction."
>
>
>
> On 2008-09-12, Alicia Henn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>
>> I would add that near future SF is more difficult to write because
>> you're proven wrong quickly, as opposed to 100 years after you're dead
>> and don't care. You have to write something you can live with.
>>
>>
>> Alicia
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> >
>> > ...Not so easy:
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>> >
>> http://futurismic.com/2008/09/11/why-near-future-science-fiction-is-diffi
>> > cult/
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