On 2009-02-25, Dave Henn <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Eric Scoles <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> If I undestand correctly what you're describing, this would not be that.
>> Sounds like what you describe is a matter of piping text through MacInTalk,
>> or something like that, and saving it as MP3. Plus, they wouldn't have any
>> inflection, as we both noted, so it would be hard to listen to -- especially
>> for something like that, where you need to understand all of it.
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I don't think we're talking about the same "cues."

Yes, there are periods and commas and paragraphs and quotation marks, and
you can code a text-to-speech system to account for that.
(MacInTalk does.) But that's a long way from Roy Blount, Jr. Or Tom Bodet.
Or Peter Riegert. Imagine Sarah Vowell read by a text to speech system. OK,
bad example: some people would prefer that, I know. How about David
Sedaris?

Consider Blount's point about the accent: IBM has coded that into their
voice tree systems, possibly using his own southern accent as one model.
I've listened to accented text to speech voices, and they're not terrible.
But you'd have to know to use them, and there's no cue in plaintext
for that. There's also no cue for gender, pitch, timbre, tone, or, really,
cadence.



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>> All my speculations are purely divorced from the IP aspects of it, of
>> course. On the IP level, I still am not sure what to think of it. I think I
>> probably favor a broader reading of Fair Use than is currently accepted.
>> It's my mis-spent Libertarian youth coming back to haunt me.
>> [snip]
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> Keep in mind that fair use is a defense to copyright infringement, not a
> right. This is something that is generally not understood by the
> non-copyright folks (read 98% or more of the world) You still infringe the
> copyright and can be sued. You just say that what you did does not warrant
> any sort of compensation to the copyright holder.



I suspect we risk conflating different domains. I understand that
you're talking about law. A good libertarian (even a lapsed one, like
me) tends to have some measure of contempt for law. If I think about IP, the
law of it interests me only insofar as it drives whether or not I can be
sued (to your point); what interests me much more is what "ought" to be,
how things could work so that they satisfy my own sense of fairness, and
meet what I regard as a pragmatic need to account for how change
affects what we are able to do.

300 years ago, IP law barely (if at all) existed. As I've noted in the past,
I'm skeptical about the very concept of IP. I believe, with Jefferson, that
there's a tightrope that needs to be walked between protection and
restriction: Too little IP protection, and you disincentivise creators; too
much, and you disincentivize people from building on the creations of
others.


I would love to see specific grants of rights for people to read to each
> other in non-commercial contexts, such as in the car, at bed time, in book
> clubs, and the like. Specific grants of rights have to be codified into
> statute or granted by the copyright holders, such as in a notice in the work
> (hint, hint).



Could you expand on that when you get a minute? I'd like to understand why
you couldn't just structure the contract to stiplate the rights. (Or is that
what you're saying?) Why do you need statute?




-- 
eric scoles ([email protected])

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