Re: [racebase] Mr Multiwin and Golden Harvest

Fri, 20 May 2005 06:12:53 -0700

 
Basically, if a horse wins a handicap race, then the next time it starts in the same grade it will carry 1½kg more. Second-place finishers go up 1kg, sometimes 0.5kg, and third placegetters up 0.5kg or nil. The stakemoney involved has a large bearing on the weight rise with, for example, wins and placings in $30,000 races attracting higher penalties than wins and placings in $17,000 races. Unplaced runners are allowed to slip down the handicap a half kilo at a time or a half kilo for every two misses . . . depends on what type of race they contest. If you take GH's last five starts, he had 2½kg over the minimum when, as the winner of two open handicaps (one listed), he resumed at Te Rapa last Nov; 2kg over in a higher-rated race (the G2 Concorde) next time; stayed at 2kg over in a $35,000 race; then had 1½kg over in a $40,000 listed event. The only anomaly I can see is that he was allowed to drop half a kg for the $40K race even though he'd placed third the time before . . . maybe the 4 length margin and stronger race had a bearing. At his next start he dropped a class to PQ grade and got his full share of pudding at 58½kg.
 
At the weights, distance and barrier draw tomorrow (geez, today, why am I up this late?) I reckon he's close to a good thing (took the $6).
 
I'd agree with Neil's comments except for the prizemoney one (HK is accepted as having inflated stakes and he'd have been handicapped in NZ for his win there on the basis of the HK race's status) and his point 4 (a handicapper can't take potential into account; he has to assess a horse solely on what it's done).
 
Gil
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: [racebase] Mr Multiwin and Golden Harvest

Thanks Neil. That makes sense. I’m still learning how the handicapping works in NZ.  

The weight and the draw will certainly make this race very difficult for him to win.

 

Regards

Neil M

    

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Franklyn
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [racebase] Mr Multiwin and Golden Harvest

 

Neil M wrote:

Evening racebasers,

 

Could someone please explain how Mr Multiwin gets handicapped to carry 1.5 kgs more than Golden Harvest in race 9 at Te Rapa tomorrow.

Mr Multiwin has won 7 races, including 2 Open Handicap races, and Golden Harvest has won 9 races, also including 2 Open Handicap races.

 

 

Hi Neil,

 

Some points:

 

1. MR MULTIWIN has an NZTR rating of 101 as opposed to GOLDEN HARVEST with 98.

 

2. MR M has won approx $100k more in prize money. [Although GH has a listed win under his belt and is group placed.]

 

3. MR M is in vintage form ... all his seven starts [six wins] have occurred since January this year [apart from his Hong Kong win,] while GH's form is spread over two and a half years. [His latest victory was his first for over 12 months.]

 

4. MR M has more class and potential!

 

That's my tuppence worth ...

 

Regards

 

Neil F

 


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